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[cipi]

Thanks.
I posted my message. I'm waiting a feedback

[Gibberish]

Cipi,

Have you looked into using the php like a frameset? Xcart by default makes somewhat of a frame (top, middle, both sides, and bottom). You would just have to manipulate the root file that tells how the pages setup and then just load what ever tpl you want into that area. Just like a frame but you wont have to deal with the issues frames have. I believe you can probly manipulate the dialog file eve. Have one dialog file load into top middle and have another in bottom middle (assuming your layout is a 3 column, but you get the idea hopefully).

Just throwing out ideas.

[Tuner]

OK I Need Your Opinion www.landspeedracing.com/customer/home.php
My main banner has to stay at the JPG quality of 45 and it slows things down quite a bit having to load this everytime even with the browsers cache enabled.

I dont like frame at all but I am just so tempted to split the widow into a top banner frame and have the rest of the site.

My main goal is keep the top section that never changes always 100% visible in slow systems and slow connection the entire site disappear for up to 60seconds for those who have already cached the main page graphics.
This is way to long for me and it violate my number one rule of interface Continuity.

I just hate how the whole site is set into a Table and the table is not displayed until everything loads inside of it. I just dont want my customer staring at the background image while they are waiting for the page to load I would love to have them stare at the banner and background

Would CSS Frames do this I have limited CSS experience.

Scott Kent
P.S. I though PHP is DHTML????? D.A. Dam Acronyms
P.P.S. Being a paid amature I would love to hear any suggestions we are loosing 36% of our customers in the first 0-30sec Maybe this is normal.

[cipi]

Originally Posted by Gibberish

Have you looked into using the php like a frameset? Xcart by default makes somewhat of a frame (top, middle, both sides, and bottom). You would just have to manipulate the root file that tells how the pages setup and then just load what ever tpl you want into that area. Just like a frame but you wont have to deal with the issues frames have. I believe you can probly manipulate the dialog file eve. Have one dialog file load into top middle and have another in bottom middle (assuming your layout is a 3 column, but you get the idea hopefully).

This is what I'm trying to do. Unfortunately I'm not so good with php and the smarty technology just makes it harder to get it right. So I have a long way to the finish (if possible to get there).

I posted the same message in the Communication Center. How long does it take to get an answer from them?

[shasan]

One way would be to make a table structure that mimics the frame structure you first wanted.

Then, you're basically looking at a customization of customer/home.tpl i.e. figure out the parts of home.tpl that you want in the top frame, and stick them in the corresponding place in the table structure you came up with, do the same with the middle frame, etc. (back up home.tpl first)

E.g. home.tpl (in 3.4.2) creates the top banner like this:

{ include file="rectangle_top.tpl" }
{ include file="head.tpl" }

That's basically your top banner, so put that where you want it to appear in your table.

Once you have all components of the main page represented the way you want in your file, you can save it as home.tpl and it should work. You're just gonna have to play around with it, so back up all the files you play with.

I know this might sound a little confusing, I don't know much about Smarty either but I hope you're getting the gist of what I'm saying.

hope this helps.

[adpboss]

Being a paid amature I would love to hear any suggestions we are loosing 36% of our customers in the first 0-30sec Maybe this is normal.

Yep, that's pretty normal. There are things you can do to try and lower tht percentage a bit but reality is that not everyone who FINDS your site wants what you have to offer.

I have had days where site traffic was 100 times higher than normal and not made a sale. I have had days when the store was dead and we converted 1 in 3 into sales.

Make sure all of the important information and best looking products are available on the main page. If a user doesn't see what he is looking for right away, they will leave and probably never come back.

[adpboss]

AND..

No one HAS to use frames. It will take some hard work and ingenuity to do it in tables, but you can accomplish your goal.

The results will be dramatically better.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, where will you find time to fix it later....

[Tuner]

So What you are saying is instead of having One Table containing all of the the other Tables, you have lets say a Header Table Left Main Right and footer table.

I have attempted to do this and had some major problems, though It is more with modifying my current custom skin to work like this I probably should start from scratch but never had doing so I am reluctant plus we have zero budget for customization business has been going down for our site. I trying to fix my HTML catalog I tried all the fixes in the forumn but something else is wrong Grrrrr Thats what happens when you get sloppy customiztion sorry Qualteam Im sure Im a rare case but my tech support ran out before they finished fixing most the obvios bugs in my custom. I digressed.

Anyway Thanks for some of your insight on the irrational of webtraffic.
I needed somone to affirm this as it is hard to reassure my boss when I have never done this before.

Nothin like Hardknox University

Yah Looks like I will try that the whole bookmark thing is just the one hangup I cant get over. Wish their were a way to have all book marks refer to the main frame no matter what is in the other from Or something like that.

I always make a non frames version it is just more efficient use of bandwidth as you only reload what is in the frame , though caching helps but...

I will attempt to create a multi table page wish me luck. Sure wish I could avoid tables all together and still keep the look. Ohh well.

-=PEACE=-
Scott