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Old 03-17-2015, 12:42 AM
 
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Any Plan?

We are working on SRS for this change. Unfortunately, cannot provide with any ETA, since we have a big list with other important features and integrations.

As soon as we make a decision, please, check our roadmap on help.x-cart.com
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:47 AM
 
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We are working on SRS for this change. Unfortunately, cannot provide with any ETA, since we have a big list with other important features and integrations.

As soon as we make a decision, please, check our roadmap on help.x-cart.com

It should be present in x-cart system.All Major ecommerce software offering this.
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Old 04-11-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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Looking great.

No problems installing on a test server.

Speed looks great as well.

We give it an in-depth test later.

Thanks to all concerned in this next step.

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I can not agree unfortunately, not nearly!!
I installed 4.7.1 now in 3 shops and tested it against quite outdated topic installations.
The new ones dont come even close in terms of speed !!!
The pages are above 1 MB in size!!!!! And regularily need more than a second to load !!!
The completely outdated shops load mostly in under 500 ms and are between 200 and 400 KB in size.
This is absurd!
This applies to ideal-responsive and light-responsive.
What good is a responsive theme if it needs ages to load??

Well, thanks god I have managed to make the old shop 4.1 pass the mobile-friendly test of Google. That means, I have it made responsive and it stays slim for loading much faster than the new issue supposed to run well with smarty 3 and a light responsive skin.
Folks, tell me I am wrong!! I'd like to believe that. But I fear, I am right!
Jesus, what a step back!!!!

BTW, testing in http://tools.pingdom.com

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Old 04-12-2015, 06:28 AM
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I can not agree unfortunately, not nearly!!
I installed 4.7.1 now in 3 shops and tested it against quite outdated topic installations.....
Update: The new skins deliver heavy pages, 1MB and more, due to 500kB size of the css + js codes loading in the beginning.
I have no clue what good it might be to load such exaggerated amount of css and js but these 2 files 550kB together delay loading for just 200ms.
What delays a lot more is the facebook like button.
I disabled this and decreased the loading time to an acceptable 750ms for a typical product page in one of my shops.
Still I believe light-responsice s far from light in terms of size. It's still delivering XXL pages.
For mobile phone often used with just a 4G or worse connection they are definitely too large. My 4.1.11 dinoaury shop loads much faster and BTW is beautiful wheras the new skin is very difficult to beautify.
Altogether: A big deception, the new skins ideal-responsive and light-responsive. I managed to make my old shop responsive much better and loading in 50% of the time being less then 50% in size.
So, really no need for switching basically. Just considerations of security let me consider the change. But now, having already put 3 months in work into the update project, I am considering to ensure security in the old shops by other means than updating.

Ah, another BTW: Smarty 3 now repalcing Smarty 2 - and loading time higher?? That was not planned I guess.

I am angry, really. Considering to leave x-cart after 10 years. You have messed up your own software.
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Old 04-12-2015, 10:53 PM
 
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I can not agree unfortunately, not nearly!!
I installed 4.7.1 now in 3 shops and tested it against quite outdated topic installations.
The new ones dont come even close in terms of speed !!!
The pages are above 1 MB in size!!!!! And regularily need more than a second to load !!!
The completely outdated shops load mostly in under 500 ms and are between 200 and 400 KB in size.
This is absurd!
This applies to ideal-responsive and light-responsive.
What good is a responsive theme if it needs ages to load??

Well, thanks god I have managed to make the old shop 4.1 pass the mobile-friendly test of Google. That means, I have it made responsive and it stays slim for loading much faster than the new issue supposed to run well with smarty 3 and a light responsive skin.
Folks, tell me I am wrong!! I'd like to believe that. But I fear, I am right!
Jesus, what a step back!!!!

BTW, testing in http://tools.pingdom.com

Regards
Wolfgang

Which modules do you use for the old/new shops?
Do you use the same product/categories sets?
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Old 04-12-2015, 11:08 PM
 
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We are working on SRS for this change. Unfortunately, cannot provide with any ETA, since we have a big list with other important features and integrations.

As soon as we make a decision, please, check our roadmap on help.x-cart.com

Any Improvement in Platinum Model.Major shopping cart software is offering Vendor Commissions and automatic Payout system.But still x-cart has no improvement still now.It was also not specified when this features will implement.I would request quaiteam once again to think at least we can set different different commission rate for different provider.Current features are not offering this at least.

Also commission can set product wise,Category wise and Manufacturer wise.

How to achieve that?

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Old 04-13-2015, 02:38 AM
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Which modules do you use for the old/new shops?
Do you use the same product/categories sets?
Ok, I see what you intend. I will disable all modules not vitally important and report back.
Of course, I just compared the same product pages with same images.
I will report later on the effect of disabling modules.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:55 PM
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Which modules do you use for the old/new shops?
Do you use the same product/categories sets?

I have now disabled some modules which are not vitally important.
The new installation at http://www.vitamine-und-mehr.org/lefdev/ runs now with:
Add To Cart Popup
Advanced Order Management
Articlelist
Bestsellers
EU Cookie Law
Flyout Menus (but I have disabled chaching, productcount and I selected tree like expanding)
HTML Editor
Maintenance Agent
Product Options
RMA
discount coupons
Recently viewed
Recommended Products
Sitemap
Socialize (but Facebook like disabled)
Special Offers
Upselling Products
Users Online
Wholesale Trading
Wish List
XML Sitemap

Nevertheless the index needs 503 ms to load (I believe that's too much) and is 793.7 kB heavy, too much.
Reason:
1.719f5978a55638bfa498c6a9422e3971.css 233,9 kB
1.48d75667dbff605389de7e37265279fa.js 341,3 kB.
If we could half this it would be a nice page.

My old shop's index at http://www.vitamine-und-mehr.org/xcart/catalog loads in 281 ms and is 182.6 kB!!!!

So where is the advance - my provacative question!!??

And, BTW, I have made this dinosaur shop mobile friendly with a few twists.

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http://forum.x-cart.com/showthread.php?t=63437 - speed issue mentioned in post #17

Over the years XC added more modules and js and css too so the size increased. Not to mention XC css/js files load code which may or may not be needed on all pages but still loads. It requires good and time consuming clean up to make the css/js load efficient.
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