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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
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So, they blow up the code volume and then present a solution overcoming the slowdown: v3 of Smarty engine. But the result is still worse than in old versions of x-cart and since 2006 or so the number of mobile phone users increased dramatically. What we need, I guess, soon is a really slim mobile friendly version. Because I bet Google will not only look up the moile friendly layout but also, soon, the mobile loading speed. At least if I were Google, I did so. Thinking a bit ahead would be great. I guess I will build my own shopping cart....
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
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The comparison is not correct. The shop http://www.vitamine-und-mehr.org/xcart/catalog is the static page(No MySQL/PHP) generated by the HTML catalog feature https://help.x-cart.com/index.php?title=X-Cart:HTML_Catalog You have to compare these two dynamic shops http://www.vitamine-und-mehr.org/xcart/home.php and http://www.vitamine-und-mehr.org/lefdev/ The static files like 1.719f5978a55638bfa498c6a9422e3971.css 1.48d75667dbff605389de7e37265279fa.js are cached by a browser and will not be loaded second time. Your old shop (time to load 1.03 sec (1030 ms)) (46.3 KB transferred) http://i.imgur.com/Szl8hBQ.png Your new shop (time to load 877 ms) (22.7 KB transferred) http://i.imgur.com/1ayMiAY.png Your old shop makes 34 requests per page Your new shop makes 16 requests per page Thank you for your tests
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
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Hi aim thanks for taking time to respond, however I disagree. You might be right from the programmer's point of view. What only counts in reality is the visitors point of view and they currently arrive mostly at the static pages as created by the catalog creation process of 4.1.6 (or so) due to the inbound linking structure of this webshop. But even taking a programmer's view, I dont agree. Taking http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/dzea1Q/http://www.vitamine-und-mehr.org/xcart/home.php (old shop dynamic) and selecting the server in Amsterdam which is closest to the visitors of my shop the test returns a loading time of just 415 ms of this dynamic index version of the old shop - a page size of 182,6 KB!!! Very slim. Whereas the 4.7.1 light responsive new version with the new "super fast" Smarty v3 loads in 433 ms a page size of whopping 794 KB. Disabling all kinds of "bells and whistles" of your new version I finally reached at least the slow load time of the old dynamic version. But the old static version is still much quicker: 263 ms!!! So, I reapeat my question: Where is the progress?? It doesn't give me consolation that the heavy and mostly superfluous css and javascript files get loaded only once at the first call of the shop. Rather to the contrary: if you could manage to make the entry page intentionally slim and load the bullshit only afterwards I'd have better chances to keep the visitor on my page. Because, that is what counts in reality! People are impatient. Until you have spoken the sentence "This will not load a second time" they already hopped to another website. And, the number of requests doesn't matter at all. But thanks for testing anyway and cheers. Wolfgang
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
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Smarty3 does not affect your CSS/JS files. It affects "Time to First Byte"(TTFB) http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/tweak/time-to-first-byte/ You can use the same HTML catalog feature to generate static pages for your new shop. This solution will change the loading time from 433 ms to 250-300 ms for your new shop. This solution will not decrease your CSS/JS files By the way this tool allows to simulate internet connection of your visitors old shop. Grade C for the TTFB http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150415_HD_WPZ/ new shop. Grade A for the TTFB http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150415_0Z_WPX/ Unfortunately we have to pay for every feature from X-Cart 4.7.1 For example jquery/jqueryUI libraries add 303 KB http://forum.x-cart.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4100&stc=1&d=142916530 5 The solution is old X-Cart version or CDN https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network Ajax adds 40KB The solution is old X-Cart version arrows in sort bars/awesome-font adds 86KB http://forum.x-cart.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4099&stc=1&d=142916329 3 The solution is ideal_responsive skin skin/light_responsive/css/altskin.css adds 66KB The solution is 2-columns/3-columns skins One_Page_Checkout adds 20KB The solution is Fast_Lane_Checkout Socialize module adds 100KB Turn off the module Flyout_Menus module adds 7 KB Turn off the module EU_Cookie_Law adds 5 KB Turn off the module Add To Cart Popup adds 19 KB http://forum.x-cart.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4100&stc=1&d=142916530 5 Turn off the module PS We can make an improvement related to the awesome font posted https://bt.x-cart.com/view.php?id=44588
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
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Hi Ildar Amankulov, Any Plan or improvement in system? Thanks, xtech
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
Hi Ildar,
I understand and I apologize for my too provocative critic. Of course you add what your customers ask for and then it means that the size of the pages increases necessarily. The most bulky is socialize - I have reduced it to only show the facebook button in the footer. One Page Checkout f.e. I believe a real advance. IMO it makes the ordering process much more transparent and thus should reduce cart abundance rates. I will look into improving awesome font.... Thanks Wolfgang
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
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Your any feedback is welcome. Thank you for making our software better. It seems we cannot disable the awesome font https://bt.x-cart.com/view.php?id=44588#191302 The font is used for every add-to-cart add-to-wishlist buttons http://forum.x-cart.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4103&stc=1&d=142926334 0 http://fontawesome.io/icon/heart/ http://fontawesome.io/icon/shopping-cart/ The full list is skin/light_responsive/modules/Socialize/footer_links.tpl skin/light_responsive/modules/Add_to_cart_popup/product_added.tpl skin/light_responsive/css/altskin.css skin/light_responsive/customer/buttons/buy_more.tpl skin/light_responsive/customer/buttons/buy_now.tpl skin/light_responsive/customer/buttons/add_to_wishlist.tpl skin/light_responsive/customer/mobile_header.tpl skin/common_files/customer/search_sort_by.tpl You can switch to the ideal_responsive skin.
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
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The current state is the same http://forum.x-cart.com/showpost.php?p=384200&postcount=22
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
Am I missing something here or is this a bug in XC or Smarty 3
Smarty 3 eval fails if the text to evaluate has double quotes in it. It took me some good time to find out why SmackDigital Dynamic Tabs module results in blank page, and XC static pages as well. They all trying to eval text which looks like this for example ------------------------------------------ This is just a simple text using "quotes". ------------------------------------------ This will result in PHP Fatal error: Uncaught --> Smarty Compiler: Syntax error in template.... Replacing " with ' works but this should not happening in the first place. Using str_replace on the variable is my workaround for now but again this is ugly way of fixing the problem as it may show elsewhere as well. QT - anything on this?
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Re: X-Cart 4.7 beta:new skin, in-context checkout, custom order statuses, Smarty v3
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A patch will be ready in 24 hours
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