X-Cart forums

[hoosierglass]

Originally Posted by seyfin

Upgrade packs require more testing in order NOT to break live carts being upgraded.

Sergey I am smart enough to know that an upgrade pack takes more time than the basic fresh install. I guess my point is, why doesn't Xcart get the "Bug Fix" out to their customer before they release it to the general public? Many of the bugs were reported by everyday Xcart users. I just think it would be nice if for ONCE in the last six years you would put your existing customers first, rather than the prospective customer. Does лояльность mean the same in English and Russian?

[Mr. G]

Comment for Sergey and intended to be shared with the entire QT Team: This thread has been bugging me all day.

I'll bet I speak for a silent majority of XC users that PRAISE and appreciate your work. I cringe when I see those recent sour comments. Why? Because I know what kind of incredible deal X-Cart is. $149 and you get free lifetime updates? And we've gotten four, what I would call major, updates in one year?? That's a deal. Just compare that with the price of Magento and many other leading carts, and you'll see that XC is the best deal by far. I know because I did a huge analysis before committing to XC last year: http://www.shoppingcart-program.com/2010/11/shopping-cart-comparison/ So for that reason, I just get angry when people diss QT about minor crap.

Sure, XC has bugs. Every app does. Even massive Microsoft has serial complainers of all their bugs, pricing, delays, etc. Hey, I don't hesitate to lay into QT when the complaints are valid, such as the ridiculous delay in preparing for the USPS API update in Jan 2011, or the outdated froogle feed that was in need of updating until 4.4.4. And I've complained loudly about other bugs.

But to wait just a few more days for the upgrade pack? I can do that. I got no problem with QT's attempts to bring in revenue as fast as they can, in light of the deal I'm getting.

[Ana]

Honestly, after using X-Cart since 2004 and going through the many upgrades, I find it easier to just do a fresh install and redo the modifications, using the existing database (within the same base versions.)

Upgrades have been frustrating and usually unsuccessful. I understand though, that many have so many mods, this may not be the best method.

I agree about the waiting a week for the upgrade pack, it's not a long wait. The delay in urgent bug fixes is a problem.

Ana

[yowstar]

I did a clean install of 4.4.4 and restored my old database from 4.4.3. However once the database was restored I noticed that Socialize, and Wibiya modules disappeared from the modules page. Has anyone else who did a clean install of 4.4.4 and restored old 4.4.3 database
had this experience. My thought is that 4.4.4 and 4.4.3 database are not compatible, particular with the good addition of the Socialize, and Wibiya modules.

Sergey, will there be a database patch to upgrade 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 in the upgrade patch that's coming for 4.4.3 to 4.4.4?

Thanks

[Ana]

Originally Posted by yowstar

I did a clean install of 4.4.4 and restored my old database from 4.4.3. However once the database was restored I noticed that Socialize, and Wibiya modules disappeared from the modules page. Has anyone else who did a clean install of 4.4.4 and restored old 4.4.3 database
had this experience. My thought is that 4.4.4 and 4.4.3 database are not compatible, particular with the good addition of the Socialize, and Wibiya modules.

Sergey, will there be a database patch to upgrade 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 in the upgrade patch that's coming for 4.4.3 to 4.4.4?

Thanks

I didn't bother to upgrade to 4.4.3 after I saw all the bugs in it. I will be going from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 but I imagine the same issues exist. Usually within branches (like 4.4.X), the database doesn't change if I recall correctly.

I also want to know, if there are database changes between 4.4.4 and 4.4.X versions, will there be a database upgrader issued?

Ana

[cflsystems]

Originally Posted by yowstar

I did a clean install of 4.4.4 and restored my old database from 4.4.3. However once the database was restored I noticed that Socialize, and Wibiya modules disappeared from the modules page. Has anyone else who did a clean install of 4.4.4 and restored old 4.4.3 database
had this experience. My thought is that 4.4.4 and 4.4.3 database are not compatible, particular with the good addition of the Socialize, and Wibiya modules.

Sergey, will there be a database patch to upgrade 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 in the upgrade patch that's coming for 4.4.3 to 4.4.4?

Thanks

You can't do that and expect everything to work. 4.4.4 modifies databse and when you replace it with 4.4.3 database the new modules or changes will not be there of course (they do not exist in 4.4.3). You have to go through the upgrade process (which is not yet available). Expect more things not to work properly as well

[Ana]

Thanks, Steve, for clarifying the database issue.

[seyfin]

Originally Posted by yowstar

I did a clean install of 4.4.4 and restored my old database from 4.4.3. However once the database was restored I noticed that Socialize, and Wibiya modules disappeared from the modules page. Has anyone else who did a clean install of 4.4.4 and restored old 4.4.3 database
had this experience. My thought is that 4.4.4 and 4.4.3 database are not compatible, particular with the good addition of the Socialize, and Wibiya modules.

Sergey, will there be a database patch to upgrade 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 in the upgrade patch that's coming for 4.4.3 to 4.4.4?

Thanks

Yes, there will.

[seyfin]

Originally Posted by Ana

I also want to know, if there are database changes between 4.4.4 and 4.4.X versions, will there be a database upgrader issued?

Ana

There are minor database changes between 4.4.4 and 4.4.0-4.4.3 versions.

There are major database changes between 4.4.x and older branches (4.3.x, 4.2.x, 4.1.x, 4.0.x).

There are various database upgraders available, for example:

* DB upgrader 4.1.12->4.4.0
* DB upgrader 4.2.3->4.4.0
* DB upgrader 4.3.2->4.4.0

See also:

* http://help.qtmsoft.com/index.php?title=X-Cart:Upgrade_procedure
* http://help.qtmsoft.com/index.php?title=X-Cart:Upgrading

Should you have any question about a specific database upgrader, do not hesitate to contact our support team via your personal Helpdesk area.

Thank you.

[seyfin]

We have updated the 4.4.4 GOLD and PRO distributions.

The new distributions include the following changes:

1) [!] Bug: *MODULES/ADD-ONS* 'Add to cart button' did not work when Socialize module was enabled. Fixed.

Files changed:
skin/common_files/modules/Socialize/buttons_row.tpl

2)[*] Improvement: *MODULES/ADD-ONS* Patch pre/post errors are displayed during upgrade now.

New files added:
admin/upgrade.php

3)[*] Improvement: *MODULES/ADD-ONS* Froogle export is improved. Ability to import variant products is added (Google base).

New files added:
include/lib/PEAR/Compat/Function/array_combine.php

Files changed:
modules/Froogle/config.php
modules/Froogle/froogle.php
modules/Froogle/func.php