[gblair]

I got them from my qtmsoft.com file area

X-Payments/Tools/x-payments-connector-for-X-Cart-4.0.x-4.2.x.zip

and x-payments was
X-Payments/x-payments-1.0.4.zip

If there is a generic place to download them, I can try again.

When you say "blank" you mean a default 4.1.10 system?
I have had other modules installed by third parties. Is it possible these could cause me issues with x-payments or applying patches then?