[JJH1947]

You said: "rectangle_top.tpl and rectangle_bottom.tpl ultimately decide alot of things about the "outside" table of your entire catalog"

My cart has been extensively modified so that changing the width statement in rectangle_top.tpl, for example, has no effect on the "customer side "my cart, though making a change to the width does affect the width of the admin side of the cart. I guess I will have to play around with the various tpls that control the width of the customer side of the cart and see if I can then figure out how to implement your sugestion

Thanks for your continued excellent help!