Thomas, Thomas, Thomas what a mind field, thank you so much for taking the time to reply to me I am very greatful. In my mind it's so simple to do but might take me a lifetime to work it out in x-cart lol.
I wouldn' betting that product.list and product.details were written by to differant people because it looks so differant
In my own words this is what I want. The idea is to check the product file and skip some wording if ther is anything in the shipping_freight i.e.
in product.details somethere under "Our price", here goes.
{if xcart_products.shipping_freight > ""}
<p> Postage ё8.95 etc etc </p>
{/if}
> was greater than.
Simple, but not in x-cart.
Anyway I use Ultraedit, I did look in \include\func\func.product.php and it gives me an idea, the idea is "keep away" lol
Thanks again I will battle on
Kind regards
Peter