[swifty1]

Thanks again Balinor it works a treat, what i don't understand is i have just had my site upgraded to 4.1.11 by x-cart so why was the states sub menu still missing.
For anybody who reads this thread i cut and paste the code supplied by balinor into skin1/admin/menu.tpl below
{include file="modules/Stop_List/stop_list_menu.tpl"}<br />

Cheers Tony