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Old 07-09-2003, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by genekurtz
That' fine but then everything that happens here, all of the advice that's given, is improving people's stores and I have not seen anyone post anything saying that they wanted to profit from what they were sharing until your post. I do see people requesting quotes to have a site modified or wanting a certain mod developed and that is something different. They are asking for something specific to be developed that they needed. I was going to have BOOMER do my site (skin) because he gave a very fair price (especially for the level of work he produces) but then I felt that I wanted to learn how to implement the things that people on this forum where sharing. Now my site may not look anywhere near as good as something that BOOMER, or funkydunk, or Shan (or any of the others that sent me quotes) could have made it look but at least I can say I am the one who created it (with the help of the great folks here).

And as for remarks about "not being a business person" I would have to say that those of you that feel that way are the ones who are clueless about how to survive in business. It would almost seem as those that have made those statements have never been in a real business. Do you just take the pricing given by suppliers and never question it or try to get it as low as possible? Do you not try to leverage and get "freebies" whenever and wherever possible? The whole purpose of a business is to bring in as much as possible with the least amount of outlay. Then, and ONLY then, will you be truly as profitable as possible. I have an obligation to shareholders to make them the most for their money. That is business! It even carries over to personal...do you walk into a car dealership and pay sticker price for a car? Do you not bargain and haggle in everyday life? Think about it!

I fully agree with alot that you've said but it was your reply to the fellow that sparked my post. Like i said there's no need to be rude, "no chance" is hardly diplomatic as all that happens is that person is then inclined not to offer help or thier mods in the future.

Many of us including myself offer free time on this forum to helping others occasionally you charge for your service when it involves installing or customising someone elses cart, it's time you have to take out of your life, you risk running into unforseen problems with servers/set ups/ configs etc the $29.00 is pocket change in real business terms to simply have something done and dusted with no headaches.

My post was geared towards the replies given to the poor chap. It's disheartening to see people add to a community only to have negative responses, believe me it makes alot of us think "why bother?" he may very well come up with the next killer must have x-cart mod that you really want, you'd hardly be on his best side straight off the mark.

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And as for remarks about "not being a business person" I would have to say that those of you that feel that way are the ones who are clueless about how to survive in business

I'll let that go, I'm not looking for a bar brawl. Survived for 9 years in pro internet development so I've been round the block more than once with everyone from sole traders to blue chip corporates

A reply of "Thanks, but I can't afford that right now" is far more diplomatic and doesn't alienate people in the forum.
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