X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 

Dear Customers,

We are glad to announce that today we start X-Cart 4.2 beta testing that is planned to be completed on November 27.

In order to participate in beta testing you are to complete the following steps:

1. Click "Accept" link next to "X-Cart 4.2 beta version" license that is listed under "My licenses" section in the private members area at https://secure.qualiteam.biz

2. Read the license agreement and accept the terms.

3. Download the installation package under "File Area" section in the private members area and install it (make sure you do not overwrite your live X-Cart store!). A brief description of new features and changes from X-Cart 4.1 is available in "NEW-4.2.0" file in the installation package.

4. All bugs, glitches and flaws you find are to be reported in the bug-tracking system at http://bugtracker.qualiteam.biz (for instructions please refer to http://bugtracker.qualiteam.biz/help/index.html).

Thank you in advance for your help in making X-Cart shopping cart better!

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Access denied

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Same here

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What page displays the error? http://bugtracker.qualiteam.biz?

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No, when trying to download the distribution pack.

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In the download area..

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Fixed. Please try again.

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Not a bug, but it needs changing so UK customers don't have to b***er about on every install! If I were new to Xcart I would just delete the install and go look elsewhere...

This is a list of UK Counties....
http://www.gbet.com/AtoZ_counties/

What is currently set in Xcart is a total mess of Towns, Cities & Counties.

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Access denied when report the issue

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https://bugtracker.qualiteam.biz/xb_authorization.php

just returns the following error ...
Error XML: XML_ERR_NAME_REQUIRED in line 1

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can we pleeeeeeease have a one-page checkout as standard this time.

pleeeeeease put a postcode checker (find address by postcode) into x-cart 4.2

pleeeeease put a much improved search-engine into x-cart 4.2

it really is about time we had these features. respectfully.

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I was able to report, but first had to logout of the bugtracker and then went back in to the bugtracker.

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Vyacheslav do you want usability comments about 4.2 posted here or submitted as a ticket?

My comment is not about something that is broken or a bug but something that could help the admin area be easier to use.

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Just downloaded and did a first glance over the skin separation for admin & customer and its a mess. A short and very incomplete look at it finds modules/Detailed_Product_Images/popup_image.tpl used in both admin and customer sections. Also check_email_script.tpl, check_zipcode_js.tpl, check_password_script.tpl, check_required_fields_js.tpl. And probably more. The mix of customer and admin stuff in the root of the skin directory is just plain confusing. How is anyone (including Qualiteam staff) supposed to know which are customer files and which are admin?

I strongly recommend you make a clear separation of the files by taking everything backend and putting them in a skin1/backend folder and everything customer and putting it the skin1/customer folder. Don't leave any files in the skin root folder. Then in init.php you can set the template directory to one of those two folders instead of leaving it at skin1. Then get rid of all those changes in the customer tpl's to include "customer/..." - it will be automatic and the ones that you missed you won't need to worry about anymore. That way nothing can be inadvertently shared and its crystal clear to everyone which area of the site is being edited. Plus you'll find any mistakes quickly because things will just break because they are missing. If you really feel its necessary to maintain some shared pieces like some of the js just create a third folder skin1/shared. Then if tpl's need to used shared stuff they just include from ../shared/whatever.tpl.

Do it right instead of making a bigger mess of the existing mess!

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Agreed, it is time to get rid of the customer, customer/main and root skin1 stuff. All the admin stuff goes in admin/ all the customer stuff goes in customer/. Why does it have to be so complicated?

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How about a fulfillment center mod? I asked for this about 3 years ago when we first bought our cart. It should (1) let us create one export orders account for every fulfillment center in use. (2) Allow admin to add or remove xml or csv form fields as needed to interface with each fulfillment center (3) have a configurable export orders feature so that we can export only the fields in the order that we want, not the entire order. And, (4) it should interface with cronjob on the server so that admin can set it to run automatically every day.
Thanks!

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Ok looks like comments go here! :D


Please organize the admin side menus.

Create a shipping side menu and put all shipping related links in it.

The Management, Administration and Inventory menus are a mess and their titles do not pertain to what is in them.
Anything that is a setting should be in one menu.
Anything that is a task should be in another menu.

Put the most commonly accessed links at the top of the menus!!!!

Maybe something more like this:

ADMINISTRATION
Users
Orders
------------------------
General settings
Categories
Wish lists
Membership levels
Titles
Payment methods
Credit card types
Tax system
Countries
States
Speed bar
Static pages
Modules
Languages
Discounts
Coupons

MANAGEMENT
Statistics
Summary
Stop list
Edit ratings
DB backup/restore
Import/Export
Edit templates
Files
Images location
Webmaster mode
Patch/Upgrade
HTML catalog

PRODUCTS
Search for products
Add new product
Modify product
Delete product
Update inventory
Extra fields

SHIPPING
Shipping methods
Shipping charges
Shipping markups
Destination zones
UPS

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To continue with the files organization.... you call it "404/ - 'Error 404 - Page not found' templates". What about the other server errors? Why not call it "Server Errors" or similar and have templates for the different errors - 401, 403, 404,....
Also why not have a "css" folder and put all the style sheet files in there? Right now they just floating in the root folder. Same applies for the js files.
I don't know how the error messages will show in the new version but "Error ID: some number" says nothing. Is it too hard to have a table with error codes and their meaning so when an error occurs the admin/customer see some text that actually makes sense?

I use Quantum Gateway. The setup in the new 4.2 version is old and incorrect. The one from 4.1.10 is the correct one. Change it. We went over this when you released 4.1.10 with the incorrect code. It should be like this

Quantum Gateway Login:
Order prefix:
CVV Type: 1 - CVV2 is passed; 2 - Card's CVV2 is unreadable; 9 - Card does not have CVV2 imprint
Use Restrict Key: No Yes
Restrict Key:

https://www.quantumgateway.com/view_developer.php?Cat1=3

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Any chance of posting the NEW-4.2.0-file here please?

Regards, Robert.

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Please use the system at http://bugtracker.qualiteam.biz and don't post bug reports into this thread. This thread is not monitored by our developers and the only guaranteed way to get bugs resolved is posting them into the bug-tracking system. Thank you!

As for other suggestions in this thread - I will surely review them; and, if possible, minor tweaks will be added to 4.2.

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TO BE CONTINUED...

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The second (and the final) part of NEW-4.2.0 file:

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I second you.

Especially the one page checkout...

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Can you please also address two issues for us Canadian Merchants:

1) Paypal Pro services are now available for Canadian merchants but X-cart 4.1.x versions do not support such services yet by default.

2) CanadaPost shipping has upgraded their priority services and changed the company that handles them from Purolator to FedEx. However Xcart version 4.1.x still shows the old names. Can this be also changed please?

Thank you very much.

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Whoa... so those of us using viaKlix2 can not use xcart 4.2 ?

Did you and elevon expect us to immediately stop using viaklix? What is the migration plan?

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is there a demo of anyone testing?

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I regret to inform that 4.2 will not support PayPal Pro (Canada).


I would appreciate if you let us know where the information is taken from. I've reviewed their web site and haven't noticed any mentioning of this.



We had been contacted by Elevon (ex-Nova) and were told that they replace viaKlix payment gateway with Virtual Merchant and migrate their clients to the second one. 4.2 will support Virtual Merchant paymen gateway.

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It is difficult enough to migrate a shopping cart. To also migrate a payment gateway at the same time is simply insane.

IF you want 4.1.x customers to adopt 4.2, ELIMINATING a 4.1 payment gateway is not going to encourage us to adopt the new version.

UNLESS Elevon is willing to give us 2 payment gateways active at once (for testing), which I doubt they will do.

In your opinion, knowing that viaklix2 simply doesn't work with 4.2, HOW WOULD YOU migrate? ELIMINATING active payment gateways is foolish! Removing something that is currently working?? Even if it's going to be replaced "someday" (elevon says probably 18-24 months from now).

:-(

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Is this for the elite few or did I miss the roll call by being away for a few days. I do not see the beta link in there. I looked everywhere.

Also, the only distribution kit in there is 4.1.11

Is this NORMAL? Are we not allowed to download an earlier distribution? Why you ask? Just curious as to why we are held to the latest version for download with no other options.

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Did you follow the steps listed in the first post? It isn't in the file area until you agree to the terms.

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Hello

I check in my support desk for X-car 4.2 beta link and doesn't exist.

I found the following message under my licences.

'No licenses were found on your inquiry. Please check your filter'

I check the filter but no luck.

Any one has and idea on what is goig on.

Jose.

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Thanks Balinor. I found it. I missed the filter part of it and it was only displaying Live licenses. Went to not working and found it. :oops:

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Checked on not working still no link to accept.

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I am a bit confused about how the membership function is implemented, basically "why" it's restricted to one membership per customers and then ability to asign one or many membrships to products and categories. In my view it would really be much more usefull the otherway around... is this something that has been up to discusion? As this is something specifically needed on the customerside, could it be possible to have both, to not break current functionallity, something like Customer Group?

To me it's much easier, and more efficient I think, to asign a customer to one or more groups which then defines what categories and product are availble to him. The logic is quite simple, a product usually belongs in one category, or it cannot be a book and a CD at the same time, but a customer may like to buy both a book and a CD. Of course both the book and the CD can be on the same subject so to speak but isn't that what Categories are for?

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The short of my analysis... I am not upgrading any time soon. I don't see a lot of great features other than dimensional shipping that warrant totally redoing the design in a hodge podge as Balinor said and the employees having to relearn where everything is in the STILL jumbled up admin.

2 things I really like:
1. Dimensional Shipping
2. Meta data for ALL pages in the cart including each product

The drawbacks to these great new changes that should have been in there a long time ago. We will have to go back through and redo most of our products to add the dimensions and meta data to them. How much time will that take away from the continual effort to get new arrivals listed???

Tis a shame those were not incorporated into X-Cart before now. Particularly the meta data. How long has meta data been around and been used????

I did report some issues though before I decided I need to get back to work. :)

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A single Book could be in multiple categories such as:
Books
New Books
Action Novels
Clearance


I personally think that the current set up works but is not implemented as thoroughly as it could be. There should be member level control in more places such as coupons.

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Vyacheslav,

Please review the thread which we opened with regards to the CanadaPost issue, where we also listed the full change details after your request to do so: http://forum.x-cart.com/showthread.php?t=43304

Specifically:

The issue of Paypal Pro not being available to Canadian merchants is an inconvenience for sure, but one that we can live with.

The issue of CanadaPost however has to be fixed urgently and I'm sure I speak for all my fellow Canadian merchants.

Thanks.

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Yes but I think there is no such problem as to asign a product to several categories of your choise, no matter the membership connection. The problem is that you cannot asign a customer to more then1 group which I think is a major issue and weakness of X-cart. I don't see that it would be a major thing to do with user memberships as with product, category and discout memberships - give it its own table and allow for customers to be both in the "hidden sex" and "Religous stuff" groups. Just to give an extrem example that custoers interest can be "devided". Bottom line is that if I put a customer in the "hidden sex" group to give him access, he's excluded from everything else that isn't 'All' - which I think is really stupid.

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I see your point and agree that member groups could be a cool feature.

One of my problems with the current member setup is that you cannot select multiple memberships in such a way as to allow non logged in to see a category but once a member level is logged in they can no longer see that category.

Say I have a clearance category.

With these memberlevels for my store.
Member
Premier
Wholesale

I don't want wholesale to have access to the clearance section when they are logged in.

Right now I do this by manually creating all my side nav links and putting if/else memberlevel code around the clearance link. This is a half a$$ed way to do this as it doesn't handle products put in the cart from that category before login.

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Right and I cannot see this would be so hard to implement, basically the same thing as been done with Products, Categories etc. a new table xcart_customer_memberships and store the memberships there in a true relational way, the rest of the code is more or less in place as this been implemented for Products, Categories and Discounts. Then instead of a simple varible with the customer membership to chaeck agains, an array is used. I think it would be pretty straith forward, a great improvement and not too much of a change or bug prone.

Xcart please this would be sooo cool - should I make this a 'bug'?