Image Verification √ aka CAPTCHA
I'm so disappointed in XC5, it is just not ready for prime time.
Is the a CAPTCHA feature for new user registration in XC5? I can't find it. Is there something else that is better I don't know about? |
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I don't see Image Verification anywhere either. I actually dislike this method of bot checking, and would prefer a human test or a honeypot.
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Hello YakMan!
First of all, please, update your 5.0.12 version to the latest 5.0.14 or even try to work with 5.1.1 beta with included responsive design based on Bootstrap and LESS and fulfillment statuses: http://www.x-cart.com/downloadxc5beta Here is the info about this beta: http://blog.x-cart.com/5-0-13-plus-5-1-0-beta.html Regrading the CAPTCHA feature. I strongly do not recommend to use this feature, since it decrease the real customer conversation. There are a lot of examples of CAPTCHAs which pick off real customers. That's why the XC5 core team will not develop this module. I like what Mike said. Human test or honeypot is much better solution. There are 3d-party professional services (like http://akismet.com/) to stop SPAM and I believe that such integration is right way. |
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Hi Everyone,
What honeypot solution do you prefer? There is a number of solutions out there on the market, but which one is the best according to your opinion? Alex |
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I like the techniques described in this article: http://www.smartfile.com/blog/captchas-dont-work-how-to-trick-spam-bots-with-a-smarter-honey-pot/
I have used similar methods on sites with much success. On one site that received thousands of spam submissions per day, we reduced it to 3 or 4 per day! In my mind there are 2 major categories of bots, those with JS enabled and those without. A good solution provides options to deal with both. Of course there is a third that can't be stopped, the human spam bots! |
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Mike, thank you for sharing the article. That can be a very popular plugin for X-Cart 5 ;)
But we think it is better to stick with a service like Akismet that improves their anti-spam technology every day and fights with constantly developing spam bots. $5/mo is not a big deal IMHO to fight with spam and not to have a burden of updating your anti-spam software regularly. A service like Akismet will do the job for you while all you need to have is an integration with them. What do you think? |
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I think integration with Akismet is a good idea. Certainly we need to consider that option.
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After all we come up with even two modules:
Akismet integration and Antispam which is really cool and powerful module that implements multiple ways to fight spam in X-Cart based online shops. |
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This is awesome! Kill the spam.
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Alex on the Akismet module - if installed but not setup (no API is entered) it still tries to run resulting in errors showing to customer. This shouldn't happen right - the code should check if the module is active and setup then run it... Right now it runs no matter what
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Hi Steve!
Could you please report this problem with Akismet to bt.x-cart.com? Thank you. Tony. |
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Posted - https://bt.x-cart.com/view.php?id=44008
By the ay can we get direct link to the BT from the forum - right now I have to go to the helpdesk and from there to the BT |
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What happens when you simply open bt.x-cart.com in a new browser tab? You are likely will be automatically logged into bt.x-cart.com because of our single sign-on.
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Yes it will work, I just don't always remember the exact url so a link is easier and I am not a fan of adding favorites links. I have a huge list of them and never use them as I can't find anything in there :)
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Hah, I see. Look at my signature then! There is always a link to bug-tracker :)
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Anyone using Akismet with X-Cart here?
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Could you use both Akismet and Anit-Spam at the sametime?
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I believe the modules do different things, so you should be able to use them both (unless there is some kind of incompatibility on the code level that should be fixed by module developers). |
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I'm still disappointed that there's no protection against bots or humans running cards. We get hit with hundreds daily. Thankfully X-Payments us doing a great job managing it, but there's still nothing stopping it.
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> Thankfully X-Payments us doing a great job managing it, but there's still nothing
> stopping it. We will be happy to this protection even better! Feel free to share your ideas and concerns here or PM me if you feel uncomfortable to post them publicly. |
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Really I think it comes down to a Captcha on the checkout screen. I'm sure there's other more technical things that could be done, but I'm not as familiar with the other things like honey pot or whatever else exists.
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I installed both Askimet and Anti-Spam modules and my extremely busy site has had zero bot or spam problems. The Anti-spam module has a very effective honey pot system, I do recommend this module highly.
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