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Jon 11-18-2002 05:00 PM

Integration with Vbulletin
 
Can somebody give me some feedback on how it may be possible to integrate vbulletin for just one member group. Say, just providers are able to access the bulletin board, or just partners are able to access ?

Would anybody else be interested in this?

B00MER 11-18-2002 07:30 PM

Code:

{if $usertype eq "P"}
Forum
{/if}


Just add this to the user profile menu.
[skin1]/menu_profile.tpl

Jon 11-18-2002 08:46 PM

Thanks Boomer. I got that stuff pretty down pat, I was looking at something a bit more major, like database integration to keep the logins consistent.

Thanks.

B00MER 11-19-2002 07:23 AM

Would require alot more php coding wise, mainly just inserting SQL statements in certain places that would have to a) switch databases and b) insert the same username/pwd info from the x-cart db.

Either way it can be somewhat of a lengthy process. Btw, why vbulletin, not to fond of phpBB? 8)

Jon 11-19-2002 02:47 PM

I don't like phpbb much because of the difficulty in customizing the look of it. Vbulletin is nice and easy :D

Jon 11-19-2002 02:55 PM

I'd prefer to use x-cart's database, and then some how incorporate vbulletin to use the same login and password.

Is there a way to do this using the username as a join or something?

snorocket 05-27-2003 03:42 PM

can this seriously be done?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by B00MER
Would require alot more php coding wise, mainly just inserting SQL statements in certain places that would have to a) switch databases and b) insert the same username/pwd info from the x-cart db.

Either way it can be somewhat of a lengthy process. Btw, why vbulletin, not to fond of phpBB? 8)


We are willing to pay? We're a multi-million dollar operation, money is not an issue, can this be done and who wants to do it? Jon, azure and a dozen others can pitch in money and everyone can get the hack and everyone will be fine and dandy, ya hearing this folks?

Whoever wants the VB/X-CART hack PM me, I'll organize it and i'll get a FAT check out to whoever wants to do the hack and will distribute the hack to other interested parties for a nominal price.

Jon 05-27-2003 03:44 PM

I'm a small, non-multi-million dollar company, that can pitch in some money from petty cash :wink:

snorocket 05-27-2003 03:46 PM

whatever it takes
 
there are over a dozen folks, probably more like several dozen folks and the cost of the hack divided up will probably be more then affordable. Just did a quickie search and found 15 people wanting this, got bored and stopped looking for more, let's get rolling. I say we get it integrated with the latest 3.4.1 version also.

I have an extra owned license of X-cart and i have an extra owned license of VB, the latest versions set up on a test server, ready and waiting for integration.


Funky, Boomer, Shan, hell even rrf? this is your chance to test your php skillz, can you do it?

Jon 05-27-2003 03:50 PM

The scope of integration will need to be defined as well, starting with the integration of the username and password and expanding from there.

snorocket 05-27-2003 04:08 PM

status
 
ok i contacted xcart to get a quote on this. If its even possible we'll pay for it and resell the hack at an affordable rate depending on what the development costs for the hack are, cross your fingers !!!

Jon 05-27-2003 04:14 PM

* Crosses Fingers *

Anybody else looking to make a quote?

snorocket 05-28-2003 05:37 PM

getting a quote
 
have a test site up, the xcart team is looking at it to see if its feasible to integrate, we need to get as many people on the list who are interesed, it will lower each of our out of pocket expense the more people we have interesed in xcart/vb integration, if your interesed post a reply and only post if your seriouly willing to help pay for the development, we have no idea what the costs will be untill i hear back from xcart, thanks

Jon 05-29-2003 01:52 AM

I'll put money on it.

mcopeland 05-29-2003 07:49 AM

I'm interested in this integration.

Jon 08-01-2003 03:35 PM

It's 2 months later. What's the word?

snorocket 08-03-2003 08:19 PM

exactly
 
i never heard anything back from x-cart after i made a whole new test site, installed all the software and sent them all the login info they needed to ftp to the site and check it out, since then i took down the site and said the hell with it, by now they've scene this thread and know people want it, also we decided we did'nt want a message board on our business web site "but we are still interested" in having the ability to choose to run the software. Their really needs to be a better arcitecture of the software, theirs been talk about a modular x-cart just like phpnuke is, this would be the route to go. If we had the ability to just install vbulletin, photopost, amember, ecttt.. and just log-into x-cart and "activate" the modules that would blow x-cart sales through the roof, are they listening? hopefully because taking advantage of what others have already done and riding their shirtails is the road to success. x-cart (rrf) do you have any idea how explosive your sales would be if word got out on the photopost/vbulletin message boards that an out-of-the-box ecommerce solution had modular plug-ins for vbulletin/photopost? I'd like to buy some stock options before you release, OK?

B00MER 08-03-2003 09:24 PM

If your using the same database for phpBB and x-cart its somewhat easy to make the x-cart registration form, process the users data into the table for phpBB so that customers don't have to register twice. Just takes a bit of php knowledge.

I'm not too big a fan of vbulletin however. :D

chickenbak 08-15-2003 10:06 AM

I agree, vbulletin is actually a pretty horrendous piece of software, especially since you have to pay. It is bloated, slow, and doesn't handle high flow sites well at all. You are paying for nothing more than the support.

I would recommend to you...

Invision Power Board (#1 recommendation)
phpBB (#2 because its been known to be unstable, and has corrupted a few databases, and has some security issues)
yabb SE or SM

snorocket 08-15-2003 10:47 PM

what have
 
what have you been smoking?

Jon 08-15-2003 11:36 PM

^^ It's a rare strain of bud called "Backwards Haze."

It makes you see reality as opposite to what it really is :D

chickenbak 08-16-2003 01:56 AM

Re: what have
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by snorocket
what have you been smoking?


vbulletin is highly rated, and if you compare the board to your other options, you will have about 4 times the compile and load time as other boards at least, more if you have a large board. I really just laugh at people who think vbulletin is the greatest piece of software in the universe, its nice, stable, and has lots of support, but it certainly isn't the end all of forum software.

Jon 08-17-2003 11:03 AM

Certainly it's not the be-all to end-all forum, as I don't think such a forum exists, however as a user who has used every forum imaginable, and runs an active forum with nearly 1 million posts, and 9,000 active posters, I wouldn't recommend anything but vbulletin.

The recode for this new version should make it much more efficient, however anybody who runs any type of forum should rely on having a decent dedicated server for it, as opposed to trying to choose their forum based on having it work on a shared hosting package.

chickenbak 08-17-2003 11:11 AM

I guess we agree to disagree, I personally run a few car enthusiast forums, one of which is about 2-3 the size of your forum, and vbulletin is a pig of a piece of software, even the new beta version that I tried, in fact, more so. One thing that I consider myself "well versed" in is forums, as I am actually a developer for one of top 5 pieces of forum software, which ironically, I don't even use for my own sites, mainly because it caters to a different user. To me, in terms of a forum software, you have to balance utility and efficiency, and although vbulletin excels in utility, as it is feature rich, it is weighty, but carries its weight well no doubt. But when I am looking for a piece of forum software, I compare page generation times etc, among other factors, and in terms of performance it is consistantly 3-5 times slower than the other choices out there. Just my opinion guys, although I would like to beleive that I have experience to substantiate it :)

snorocket 08-17-2003 03:18 PM

bloated ego
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chickenbak
I guess we agree to disagree, I personally run a few car enthusiast forums, one of which is about 2-3 the size of your forum


you have no idea, who, what , when and where our company has put up bulletins so to even make a statement of complete arrogance is off the mark, no one cares about the size of your forums or your bloated ego. What people care about is integrating vbulletin with x-cart, if people want phpbb integrated with x-cart then get it done also.

chickenbak 08-17-2003 03:21 PM

Or maybe your statement is of complete and utter inane imbecility. We were discussing the size of forums, and whether we would trust the forum software with that size of a board or not. Yes, the thread was slightly thread-jacked, but the discussion was valid. So either you are wholly oblivious and ignorant, or you failed to read the last few posts.

Oh and by the way, I don't care if my board or your board is bigger, it was a statement of fact, not to prove anything. Maybe since you obviously were "threatened" by it, maybe you are the one that is trying to prove something :lol: :roll:

B00MER 08-17-2003 04:32 PM

Didn't mean to start a flamming war of which was better... Just stating my opionion as it seems with everyone else. Opionions are like asses we all have them and they all stink.

;)

snorocket 08-17-2003 05:44 PM

oh please
 
you appartently have nothing better to do with your time

Jon 08-17-2003 06:16 PM

Beef on message forums about message forums, I've seen it all now :D

Personally I love the functionality of vbulletin and every other message forum has lacked something in comparison. I run a dual xeon dedicated server, so I have no problems. I don't care what you guys use, and that's why I'd like vbulletin integrated :D

chickenbak 08-17-2003 06:21 PM

On the note of functionality, have you ever used the new versions of Invision...it is actually very comparable in terms of feel and functionality. You have a nice dedicated setup, dual xeon 8O My major quim is end user load time though, I guess maybe I spend too much of my day on forum boards, but the difference between .05 and .5-.7 to me is drastic in terms of everyday usage. Maybe I am just a dork :P

groovico 08-17-2003 06:33 PM

Honestly why all the debate over forum software?

If it does the job for you then it's all you need. Personally I use phpbb2 on a forum that has an average of 10-15 users during any minute on it throughout the day (thats heavy on a shared server!). It runs a dream, it's very friendly to the server when compared to VB. Does the job so I'm happy with it, my forum users are happy with it.

It's a bit like comparing OS-commerce to x-cart, they both do the same thing, one's free one isn't. Why do we use x-cart? Well, because it does what we need in a way we are happy with.

Don't chastise people just because they use something different to you or have different requirements :wink:

snorocket 08-17-2003 06:50 PM

ahhhh
 
oscommerce, aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh run, hehehehehehe.

DogByteMan 08-17-2003 06:51 PM

I think snorocket forgot to take his medication...

kpayne 08-17-2003 07:15 PM

I've heard that phorum is even nicer to the server. I can't find the benchmarks for it, though, but phorum is much simpler but still free & PHP/MySQL & regularly updated.

chickenbak 08-17-2003 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groovico
Honestly why all the debate over forum software?

If it does the job for you then it's all you need. Personally I use phpbb2 on a forum that has an average of 10-15 users on it throughout the day. It runs a dream, it's very friendly to the server when compared to VB. Does the job so I'm happy with it, my forum users are happy with it.

It's a bit like comparing OS-commerce to x-cart, they both do the same thing, one's free one isn't. Why do we use x-cart? Well, because it does what we need in a way we are happy with.

Don't chastise people just because they use something different to you or have different requirements :wink:


Not chastising anyone, I just think that most people haven't looked at the other options and just assume VB is the best. There are just so many options to choose from, I don't think VB is bad software per se, just too bulky for MY tastes, and of course, our needs, yearnings, and aspirations differ. Now OS Commerce...I tried that before I purchase x-cart and umm..yeah, no comment. I think the very fact that you have to .htaccess your admin dir says it all.

chickenbak 08-17-2003 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpayne
I've heard that phorum is even nicer to the server. I can't find the benchmarks for it, though, but phorum is much simpler but still free & PHP/MySQL & regularly updated.


Phorum is ok, I am more and more impressed with Invision the more I use it though.

snorocket 08-17-2003 07:47 PM

yea
 
we like the invision manager, we use it to tranfer files back & forth to offices in other locations and it works great, we hav'nt found one that works better yet and it is a plus being free but if we find something better we'll buy it.

dawing 08-28-2003 01:45 PM

VB integration
 
I have used Invision Power Board, phpBB and VBulletin.

With that said, Vbulletin is a far superior product. The load times which seem to be the only issue have been resolved within the past year. The hacks, mods and outright functionality of Vbulletin is years ahead of the next best in line.

Anyhow I would like the Vbulletin hack as well.

Thanks!

chickenbak 08-28-2003 04:19 PM

Quote:

The load times which seem to be the only issue have been resolved within the past year

That is not true, VB3 during load testing was actually WORSE than VB2 by quite a large margin. When was the last version of Invision that you tried, in .2 versions, they managed to grow a lot 8O and mimic the features of VB very well, including the extensive backend, give or take for a few features, but on the other hand, it has some features that VB doesn't have. This is all in a package that is smaller, leaner, faster, and IMO more robust than the VB platform.

What substantiates VB's "superior" position to you?

Edit: And as you can see from above, VB has become the forum package that everything is compared against, it is a great package, and I respect it a lot. But it no longer holds the position it had a year ago IMO, especially with the release of VB3. IPB has for the most part caught up in terms of feel and functionality, phpBB has more mods and aftermarket support, and with the coming of Simple Machines, there will be a new player in the field worth taking note of!

DogByteMan 08-28-2003 04:23 PM

OOPS

Dawing riled up chickenback


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