Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Is there a way to set up breadcrumbs on static pages?

I'm looking for them to have a hierarchy similar to:
categories > subcategories > subcategories > page

These would all be static pages, not necessarily products.

For example:

This page:
http://www.doctoredlocks.com/catalog/pages.php?pageid=4
should have the breadcrumb prior to home be this one:
http://www.doctoredlocks.com/catalog/pages.php?pageid=3

Is there a way to do this?

I tried to find it in the forum threads but couldn't find anything similar.


-Melinda

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Afraid not - the static pages are all on the same 'level' by default.

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Well then!

Do you think it would be possible to use Carrie's Hidden Categories Mod:
http://bcsengineering.com/store/product.php?productid=155&cat=0&page=1

What I'm thinking is this:

Instead of making a static page, I would just make a "category." I would put my previous "page" material into the description? They would be viewable as regular categories under one main hidden?

For example here:
http://www.doctoredlocks.com/catalog/home.php?cat=322

The main category would be hidden because I plan to link to tutorials and galleries, but don't wan't the links showing up in my "product" section.

Am I on the right track?

-Melinda

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Not sure that is the way to go, no. Do you absolutely need the breadcrumbs for static pages?

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Well, on my static pages, it shows a main list, then you click on a sub list, and then a tutorial. So there is no way to get back to the main list or the sub list easily.

So yes, breadcrumbs would fix that OR I could put links back on every page. Breadcrumbs just seem like the natural choice since people are used to using them for every other page of navigation of the site, that's all.

Just out of curiousity, is there a reason that you think putting those in a category is bad? Or is it just too sloppy for future planning? It wouldn't likely be a great thing with our "search" system but I couldn't think of too many cons. Thoughts?

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

I would suggest creating a custom menu in the static pages - and you could even customize the static page template so that you can hard-code the breadcrumbs at the top.

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

So as of right now, changing static page template to remove breadcrumbs section and then hard-code breadcrumbs in every single static page , is the only way to take full control of breadcrumbs on static pages?

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Nope you don't have to edit every single page as below is one way..
You could do it this way, to only have a menu appear for static pages with your chosen static pages, this would show only within static pages areas.

{if $page_content ne ''}Your Menu Here Top Or Side or your include file with your menu horizontal or at the site for static pages only
{/if}

YOU CHOOSE WHERE TO HAVE ABOVE CODE DISPLAYED, FOR TESTING ON MY LOCAL HOST I HAVE IT AT TOP ABOVE BREADCRUMBS..

It can be configured further, but that's the basic, so you could have a lovely neat menu at top for example displaying all your links within your chosen pages

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Umm not sure what menu are you referring to?

All I want is to be able to control breadcrumbs, for example:

I want to create an Articles section page on my site, that page will contain links to a bunch of static pages with articles. When user visit any of those static pages, he should see next thing in breadcrumbs :

MySite > Articles > Page name

As of right now, X-cart would show ALL static pages at root lvl:

MySite > Page Name


Returning to my previous question, is changing static page template to remove breadcrumbs section and then hard-code breadcrumbs in every single static page is the only way to take full control of breadcrumbs on static pages? :-k

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

It wouldn't show all pages at root level, It would be your custom menu as I stated, letting you choose which pages to show.

Example 1 (Your custom menu):
Articles - Article 1 - Article 2

Example 2 (Your Custom Menu)
Could be a tabbed style menu drop-down etc.

Or any other Menu, user would know exactly where they are and it would only show on what pages you require..


But it would not show like a breadcrumbs menu NO (As it's a custom hard coded menu) UNLESS: Your menu can show active page users is on via css then it would look like>

Article - Article 1

I really couldn't see the point of breadcrumbs that way, when it's possible as we stated.

Other then this, how the other user does it via a category for articles...

Sorry I wasn't much help.

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Yeah I have a menu which checks your url and highlights current tab you in, yet I wouldn't mind if my users would rely on breadcrumbs as a consistent alternative way to navigate around..

I am really surprised that with so many versions of X-cart popin-out every year neither one included a simple feature to assign categories to static pages ](*,)

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

I can see where you are all coming from, but it is possible and I think my explanation was complicated.


ARTICLE MAIN SCREEN - Take a look at Breadcrumbs Menu

http://forum.x-cart.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1816&stc=1&d=126386077 8


ARTICLE ON ITS OWN - Take a look at Breadcrumbs Menu showing actual Article 1 and main Article Page

http://forum.x-cart.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1817&stc=1&d=126386084 0

The above shows how it can be done, showing article Title and then leaving the article root link visible for user to go back to all Articles Main Page.

Is this as close as what you want?

THIS IS AIMED TOWARDS ORIGINAL USERS QUESTION

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

It might be possible to start with BSCE Static Page category mod, then customize the menu part of it to look like breadcrumbs. You could check with them to see if it can be customized to meet your needs.

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

to Gizmo :

In 1st screen-shot breadcrumbs :

Main Store > Articles Main > Articles

Is Articles Main and Articles is the same thing? If yes, then following the same logic, breadcrumbs on 2nd screen-shot should be :

Main Store > Articles Main > Article1 > Article1

I want breadcrumbs to help customers to understand site hierarchy better, however inspecting those 2 screens left me a little confused :)

To gb2world:

Funny part is that we purchased that exact same mod over a month when we had 4.2 installed, however its installation instruction was all messed up because they forgot to update it after transition from previous version. I am still in the middle of communication with them about it, but in the mean time we decided to switch to 4.3 so now I am waiting for reply from them to see if they going to update it to 4.3.

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

My post is intended for the original user, sounds like to me you want you cake and to eat it, so far everything I have put up you have criticised, not that I am bothered.



NO It doesn't show like you put, it will show
Main Store > Articles Main > Article1

And so on like >
Main Store > Articles Main > Article2

Articles Main (Articles) yes is the same page, And So what?, it's the starting point for articles with all articles grouped on same page, and user can be taken back easily to main articles page, as the original poster wanted............

The original poster asked for a workaround etc, I stepped in to show how it can be done, another user mentioned BCSE mod that could be modified, and you bash that as well.


Wish you luck in a perfect world, unfortunately this is not the case, and also there are very good modders out there and coders that modify code to the best of what's possible to help others.

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

Yes the world we live in is perfect as it is and I am enjoying every bit of it :)

To Gizmo: Umm sounds like somene might have a bit of inflated ego problem, I used to be the same way and couldn't handle any critic as well.. :) I used to jump the gun right away and would always be first to critisize people for "critisizing" me.

However, I never critisized anyone here or their solutions. I am just trying to get exactly what I want, and when you make a suggestion that not quiet fit my needs I think its a normal thing for me to let you know about it, thats what this forum is for imo ;)

I praise everyones input here, and especially yours, Gizmo, since half of the answers I get were from you. We are trying to get the best solution here so it would help many many other ppls in the future as well. It's another reason for having this comunity forum here ;)

If someone who reads this thread finds that any of the suggested solutions would be a perfect fit for them, It would mean that this conversation wasn't useless at all.

On other hand, look , If I would stick with original 2-month-old thread answers, we would never get so many great suggestions including yours. Having a healthy dialog is the best way to progress imo, unless you into your own monologues.

Anyway, returning to our sheeps:

My question was to Balinor : "So as of right now, changing static page template to remove breadcrumbs section and then hard-code breadcrumbs in every single static page , is the only way to take full control of breadcrumbs on static pages?"

And by full control I ment just that. Your solution is neat, Gizmo, however having "and-so-what" categories duplicates here and there doesn't leave me quiet satisfied.

I'd like to see the consistensy across every single page on my site. As a matter of fact, I want it so bad, I am willing to hardcode breadcrumbs in every single static page. And I would, but since I am gonna have hundreds of those pages I was hoping there was an easier solution that fits my needs.

Thanks everyone who answered in this thread, and I hope you know how much we all appretiate your invaluable input :)

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

LOL, see there you go, telling people about there ego, OMG... Whatever.
I can handle criticism, thank you, but you knocked all my solutions every time, when In fact I said from the beginning it "Can be modified" I posted a quick reply of what can be achieved, each time I posted something, it was not good enough for your personal needs, so my replies are now directed not at you, (Please start a new topic" titled, "How do I get the perfect solution for breadcrumbs and static pages"

I'm here within this topic to get back on track helping the original users question.

And How dare you say I have an ego issue, just look at your reply........

and 268 post, what with every post reply and ego issue, don't think so, I bit my tongue on 3 of your replies.
Keep it on topic then as you said to the original users question, it's not a discussion for the as what you want perfect solution, to do that by a Mod....

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

I guess its the matter of how ppl understand other ppls questions, as far as I can see original post user wants the same thing I do : to set up breadcrumbs on static pages... so I really don't see how am I off-topic here but whatever :)

Maybe I am at the wrong forum and should find the one where user alowed to question each other? If yes, please point me in the right direction.

Yes I think we all know that everything can be modified in x-cart, thats exactly the reason we all stick to it...

I am personally sick of post answers like: "Yes it can be modified, pm me for a quote", etc. If you here to promote your services as developer or to push your completed paid mods, please post it in the correct section of the forum ;)

Gizmo, please don't get mad for me not accepting the solution that is not working for me, please dont call ppl critics for that, and please don't try to define the world we all live in from your own perspective.

Everyone deserves the right for his own opinion, and a little patience go a long way;)

Re: Breadcrumb navigation for static pages?
 

OMG Moving on.................