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Darryl 03-08-2008 08:34 PM

Best Place To Buy A Skin For X-Cart
 
Can someone recommend a place where I can purchase a good quality skin from that provides good after sales support. I don't need custom work at this point.

Thanks

balinor 03-09-2008 02:59 AM

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Moving to Third Party Add-ons. Try bcsengineering.com, 2tcwebs.com, xcartmods.co.uk and 7dana.com

Darryl 03-10-2008 09:59 AM

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I e-mailed 7dana.com on Friday and to date have not had a reply. They seemed to offer a good selection of templates. They even state a 24 hour reply guarantee. They can say goodbye to my business. It appears that a few of the other sites that are around sell templates from 7dana.com. I wonder if they are aware of the support they are giving?

intel352 03-10-2008 10:44 AM

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There aren't too many premade template solutions available, which is why most solutions are only from 7dana. Additionally, when you typically purchase from a vendor, you actually deal with that vendor for 1st-level support, and then it goes to 7dana if needed, from there.

BTW, many firms are away from the keyboard over the weekend, and then when they get back to work on Monday, they have a backlog of requests from customers.

What type of support would you require for a pre-built template?

Asiaplay 03-10-2008 10:49 AM

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Darryl,

He is slow in answering sometimes (and at other times is back in literally 5 minutes).

To be honest for off the shelf templates he has the best selection (and they work nicely).
He also makes sure the templates works when X-Cart is upgraded (so you can keep using the same skin when upgrade X-Cart).

I use one of his skins on one of my sites and after upgrading I had an issue installing the skin... he was nice enough to help me fix the installation and did not ask for anything extra (from memory I waited a couple of hours for him to do that).
He also is the only person who offers skins that I know of, who will help you work out why another 3rd party mod is not working with his skin (and help you to get it to work).

It is a national holiday in his part of the world today as well - this might explain why...
So I wouldn't write the 7dana option off this fast... just some comments (even though I understand that first appearances for you have been bad).

Cheers - Asiaplay

PS: I have one additional thought... William Hayes in the forum was planning to offer skins (and he has done some very nice ones for his clients - personally I think his skin designs are up to date and in line with the net / fashion trends happening now)... perhaps check out this post and PM him to see if he has released any skins yet... http://forum.x-cart.com/showthread.php?t=22067

intel352 03-10-2008 10:54 AM

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I'd like to 2nd Asiaplay's comment, William Hayes and Padraic Ryan (Balinor) are 2 of the best x-cart designers available, but only William has mentioned selling skins, so that might be another good solution for you.

balinor 03-10-2008 10:55 AM

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Thanks Jon :) To clarify though, we don't sell pre-made skins, all of our designs are completely custom.

Jon 03-10-2008 11:20 AM

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Lets not forget about http://www.websitecm.com/ :)

Zaja 03-10-2008 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darryl
I e-mailed 7dana.com on Friday and to date have not had a reply. They seemed to offer a good selection of templates. They even state a 24 hour reply guarantee. They can say goodbye to my business. It appears that a few of the other sites that are around sell templates from 7dana.com. I wonder if they are aware of the support they are giving?



Darryl,

I replied the next day, but I'm having problems sending email to your address (using 7dana or my gmail address), take a look:

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> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
>
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>
> admin@*****astronomy.com
>
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> PERM_FAILURE: DNS Error: DNS server returned answer with no data
-------------------------------------------


btw. We gurantee answer within 24 hours for support questions/issues, not for pre-sales questions and contacts. :wink:

Asiaplay 03-10-2008 12:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon
Lets not forget about http://www.websitecm.com/ :)


For mods Jon you are top of my list - as have done some very, very good ones and do support them well... ;)
(Balinor was notti to leave you off that list... especially considering one of the others I saw he included that made me shiver)...

Cheers - Asiaplay

PS: your skins do sort of look 7dana(ish) though ;)... :) opps....

balinor 03-10-2008 02:46 PM

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Oh come on, I can't possibly list everyone all the time...that was just a place to start. I always list Jon for critical mods such as CDSEO, EZ Upsell, etc...just wasn't the first one to come to mind as far as skins, and his are sold through BCS anyway.

intel352 03-10-2008 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by balinor
critical mods such as CDSEO, EZ Upsell, etc...


pfftt, what about XC SEO and Variants Chart? :P :lol:

Darryl 03-10-2008 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaja
Darryl,

I replied the next day, but I'm having problems sending email to your address (using 7dana or my gmail address), take a look:

-------------------------------------------
> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification
>
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>
> admin@*****astronomy.com
>
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> PERM_FAILURE: DNS Error: DNS server returned answer with no data
-------------------------------------------


btw. We guarantee answer within 24 hours for support questions/issues, not for pre-sales questions and contacts. :wink:


Hi,

Could you resend them. I'll send you another e-mail address through your site just in case it happens again. I am very relieved to hear that you answered. I liked the idea of your templates and vBulletin skin. I can't say I've had any difficulty receiving e-mail, at least none that I know of until now. Although I might be able to think of a reason or two as far as this weekend is concerned.

I am getting rather desperate to find a viable ecommerce solution. I asked x-cart my first question through their support site and was amazed to see an instant 10 points taken off (which have now been replaced and appreciated). This question was more like a sales/feature question which in my mind should not have been charged anything. The kicker is it took over 24 hours to get a response from a paid support service. That is too long, and seeing as I'm just getting going with them it made me question whether I can work with the way they do business. I'm sure they probably questioned whether they can work with me :-)

Thanks for the enlightenment. I'll drop that e-mail address off now.

balinor 03-10-2008 03:25 PM

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X-Cart is a great e-commerce system, but I'd recommend utilizing the forums first instead of tech support. Not only is it free, but you have thousands of users who can help you instead of a few engineers who are WAY overloaded.

Darryl 03-10-2008 03:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by intel352
What type of support would you require for a pre-built template?


One that requires an update after a version change, or a couple of simple after sales integration questions. You want to know someone is there if there is an issue of some sort.

Darryl 03-10-2008 03:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Asiaplay
Darryl,

He is slow in answering sometimes (and at other times is back in literally 5 minutes).

To be honest for off the shelf templates he has the best selection (and they work nicely).
He also makes sure the templates works when X-Cart is upgraded (so you can keep using the same skin when upgrade X-Cart).

I use one of his skins on one of my sites and after upgrading I had an issue installing the skin... he was nice enough to help me fix the installation and did not ask for anything extra (from memory I waited a couple of hours for him to do that).
He also is the only person who offers skins that I know of, who will help you work out why another 3rd party mod is not working with his skin (and help you to get it to work).

It is a national holiday in his part of the world today as well - this might explain why...
So I wouldn't write the 7dana option off this fast... just some comments (even though I understand that first appearances for you have been bad).

Cheers - Asiaplay

PS: I have one additional thought... William Hayes in the forum was planning to offer skins (and he has done some very nice ones for his clients - personally I think his skin designs are up to date and in line with the net / fashion trends happening now)... perhaps check out this post and PM him to see if he has released any skins yet... http://forum.x-cart.com/showthread.php?t=22067


Thanks very much for this information. I haven't written them off. It appears my first impression though very important, may have been skewed by a couple of issues which I am sure will be resolved from what I am hearing here.

Darryl 03-10-2008 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by balinor
X-Cart is a great e-commerce system, but I'd recommend utilizing the forums first instead of tech support. Not only is it free, but you have thousands of users who can help you instead of a few engineers who are WAY overloaded.


Will do. Thanks.

Duramax 6.6L 03-10-2008 04:08 PM

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Is anyone making a completely css driven template for xcart?

balinor 03-10-2008 04:26 PM

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Yep, check both BCS Engineering and xcartmods.co.uk

intel352 03-10-2008 04:31 PM

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seemed to me BCSE's wasn't all that attractive and complete, how was xcartmods' by comparison?

balinor 03-10-2008 04:38 PM

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BCS's is actually Cart-labs I believe. Phils looks really nice, although I haven't really looked under the hood yet...

intel352 03-10-2008 04:39 PM

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Just checked out Phil's, looks pretty good and it's fully table-less, that's awesome. That's actually the reason why I haven't gone with the other. thx for the heads up on that

Duramax 6.6L 03-10-2008 05:03 PM

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Can anyone recomend this

http://www.cart-lab.com/X-Cart-version-41x-CSS-Template-p-113.html

balinor 03-10-2008 05:04 PM

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That's the one at BCS I'm talking about.

Duramax 6.6L 03-10-2008 05:14 PM

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Being css driven, I can change the colors, spacing, ect by modifying the css file?

I will have to apply all the mod again?

balinor 03-10-2008 05:25 PM

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That's the catch with CSS skins...many third party mods require extra work to get them to work, and X-Cart upgrades will be a much bigger headache.

Jon 03-10-2008 06:06 PM

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Cart-Lab's css skin should not be used. I'd be surprised if Phil's CSS layout is compatible with his own mods, let alone other third-party mods.

intel352 03-10-2008 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon
I'd be surprised if Phil's CSS layout is compatible with his own mods, let alone other third-party mods.


Due to the CSS usage, or for some other reason?

Jon 03-10-2008 08:54 PM

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Because I've had several clients asking me to fix issues where two of his own mods simply aren't compatible, to which his response was "sorry no refunds."

intel352 03-10-2008 08:59 PM

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ah, interesting. Thx

PhilJ 03-11-2008 12:48 AM

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It took long enough to put a template together that was entirely table-less and W3C compliant, let alone worry about third party mods. Making the template was a good exercise in CSS for me and I thoroughly recommend everyone else have a go themselves. I'm hoping to launch more CSS templates as soon as the next version is released.
Quote:

two of his own mods simply aren't compatible
That's unlikely, but I do suggest in my T&C that people ought to have a good working knowledge of CSS before purchasing the template. I could start a rant about CDSEO and how that's been a total PITA... but I won't.
Quote:

to which his response was "sorry no refunds."
What's your refund policy then Jon?

intel352 03-11-2008 01:31 AM

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I just got the table-less skin from Phil (X-Cart Mods), and it's damn nice. I highly recommend it.

Additionally, I've had to work with Phil in the past on the behalf of a client that had already purchased some modules from X-Cart Mods, and Phil was actually very responsive and helpful.

Cheers

Jon 03-11-2008 08:18 AM

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I think it's realestic that if you are going to sell a customer 2 mods, they should be compatible or the customer should be notified of incompatibility prior to purchase, or you should make them compatible for the customer after purchase. I'm not trying to "flame" you, I'm just trying to make people aware that they should do the dilligence before purchase with some pre-sale questions.


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