X-Cart 4.0.11 released
 

X-Cart 4.0.11 is now in your File area along with the upgrade kits that will take you from X-Cart 4.0.10 to 4.0.11

Here is the changelog:


Thank you.

Thank you thank you for updating the tax problem. This can get a lot of us put in jail REAL quick for tax fraud.

Also, quick question... do I need to reinstall X-AOM, X-RMA, X-PConf after doing the updates?

YES

Thanks. I'll ask my other upgrade questions in the proper forum.

Thank you for the easy upgrade svowl - mine went flawlessly from upgrade panel within Admin CP - only had to patch 2 files by hand (product.php and products.php; both heavily modified :wink: )

Everything took all of about 2 minutes. 8)

I might be overly optimistic, but I have big hopes for version 4.0.99 8O

4.99.99 :twisted:

Honestly though, I am very happy with X-Cart. Especially comparing it to the alternatives. X-Cart is in it's own league.

I agree with g0t0pless, I have tried several ecommerce packages ranging from Actinic to osCommerce, and have found X-Cart to be the best by far, the only alternative is to build my own cart, which I dont have the time for and would not be anywhere as good. Plus compare X-Cart to osCommerce, at least with X-Cart we get regular updates, even if they are fixes which does not bother me, whereas the other hasnt seen an update for over a year.

Was hoping the Frooge problem would be fixed :(

So I guess it is NOT fixed in 4.0.11 ? :(

I though the Froogle 100 products bug was fixed in 4.010.

Even though 4.0.11 comes hard on the heels of 4.0.10 it's nice to see the bug list quite short.

I haven't installed 11 yet, really because the list above didn't say anything about it being fixed. :(

Please see the CHANGELOG 4.0.10:


This problem was fixed in 4.0.10

I think the bug list is smaller beause this release is much closer to the 4.0.10 release, and was much needed due to the tax issue.

Froogle - I would like to see the option to chose to have it export with tax included prices in a near release...
In the UK you can only provide tax inclusive prices or the feed is rejected. :( Anyway that is OT, thanks for the updates! :wink:

No, I'm talking about getting the file to export period http://forum.x-cart.com/viewtopic.php?t=15814&highlight= I've tried different "short" names as recommended, checked the permissions, tried saving to server and as a file, all no go :(

Here's the message I get:

If I were to skip this upgrade (from 4.0.10 to 4.0.11), when you release the 4.0.12 revision, can I upgrade it from 4.0.10 to 4.0.12 instead? Or do I have to upgrade to 4.0.11 first and then upgrade to 4.0.12 ?

Thanks
-Tuan

Normally we release upgrade patches that advance you to the next version eg. 4.0.9 - 4.0.10. We also release skip upgrade patches from time to time eg. 4.0.9 - 4.0.12. So if the step by step upgrade annoys you or if upgrade does not contain fixes that are critical for your business, you can just wait for the next jump patch set if you really wish to upgrade.

The only danger of that being if for instance you need a serious patch in v 4.0.12 and the jump patch doesnt exist to get you from 4.0.9 to 4.0.12 then you would need to upgrade each one individually to get to it.

"Jump" upgrade patches upgrade your store (which can be of any version) to the last version available in the branch to which the version of your store belongs. You can find examples of such upgrade patches in your Files area/Upgrade kits.

i have to say that this is beyond rediculous that already this year there are 3 new versions of xcart and security patches to boot.

I for one will not be using x-cart for ANY future stores - There are alternatives (that I have been using for the past 6 months to build numerous stores), that do not have to release patches every month (or week) to fix bugs that they dont test before releasing. Other companies manage to test before releasing - after all xcart it is people's businesses and livelihoods that you are messing with here.

x-cart - you have lost my business.

As far as mods are concerned - why would any developer invest time and effort in doing mods for something that will be changing in 2 weeks... not worth it. They will therefore be no further mods.

x-cart community - sorry :(

Security - need i say anything else - so much for the security consultant that came in to sort this last summer - the security patch now predates his work... good consultant.

Good luck to those that stay and continue in the hope that 4.0.12 or 4.9.99 will work as you want it to. I for one will save the endless time that is spent patching, upgrading and invest that into running my business on a secure, stable and quick platform.

we are one giant beta test... at least we don't have to pay for updates :lol:

it is not good enough.

btw you do:
1 - time is money according to the old cliche
2 - lost orders through bugs costs too

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if anyone wants to contact me get me on irc on QUAKENET #funkydunk

Alternatives
 

Hey FunkyDunk I'm curious what alternatives you would suggest. I've barely gone live with my store, and it seems like I'm constantly updating. I don't dare change anything too much because of the nightmare of applying future upgrades.

I've tried Zen Cart and OSCommerce didn't care for either of those solutions.

What you will be using for future E-Commerce sites you develop?

Thanks,

JB

Im pretty sure that he wouldn't be able to say in the forums as it would be seen as promoting a competiting package, it might be best to take such dialogue away from the forum.

spot on Adam. I dont think it is fair to x-cart to do that either through this forum or by pm.

I guess I remember back a few years when I spent an entire summer trying to find a good cart solution, and that the prices for such a system where in the thousands, and none of them were as good as this. For about 2 years I had a cgi cart that was "okay", but nothing compared to this. I've been with this thing since 3.4.4, and I love it. It's made me many tens of 1000's of dollars, and I personally like it that they are constantly improving it.

Just did the patch from 4.0.10 to 4.0.11 - no probs this time. At least these guys stay on top of it. To each his own...I'm staying.

Kevin

Guys, Guys, Guys.

There is no one solution that is "right" for everyone. For Funkydunk, maybe the Xcart mode of operation doesn't fit his business mode. That's fine, he can move on.

For me and the company I work for, Xcart is great, we are on the verg of going live with xcart on our main site (to replace intershop/epages). I don't sell my services to clients for design/e-commerce solutions, I work for a company that sells things through a catalog and through the web (www.aerostich.com).

Yes it does take a lot of personal time, checking things out, but there are a few things that make xcart stand head and shoulders above the rest (bugs and all).

1. Smarty templating engine (probably the most powerful/ubiquitous templating out there).
2. Open Source (yeah, I've added many mods to my cart, beautiful)
3. Free upgrades? Are you kidding?! Our order processing software CMS from NewHaven is riddled with bugs (you guys have no idea). It cost us near $25K and an additional $6/year for support and upgrades.

Also, it depends on how adept you are at HTML/PHP/Smarty/Mysql. I am quite fluent in them all. So understanding how the cart operates and what needs to change to accomplish my goals is not too difficult. I take it that some here know little of the technologies mentioned, that may make xcart more difficult to truly adapt to their liking.

I'm staying for now.

i agree - xcart is good is that is what you want - i was merely making a point that perhaps a better model for the xcart community would be if xcart tested stuff BEFORE releasing then you wouldnt have to go through the process of upgrading every fortnight.

again not much hassle if you run one shop - but for any developer that has used xcart to build sites - that equates to a lot of work each time that an upgrade comes out.

Sure, xcart doesnt charge for the upgrades but they do cost both time and money and the nervousness of wondering whether your business will still be in operation after an upgrade is surely reason in itself to think twice about it.

In an ideal world people would have live and test servers where these things can be tested but in my 3 years of work with xcart I have met 3 clients that have test servers (out of hundreds).

There are alternatives, admittedly more money but speed, useability and reliability are all very important factors in determining whether a customer will place and order or come back if it fails or if the cart loses his contents. You cant measure those except to compare with a before and after xcart.

Not withstanding the fact that I have many xcart customers that run very big operations, xcart should listen to what a lot of people are saying (now me included) and get things right BEFORE launching.

Whether you continue with xcart is up to you - there is always a point when you have invested a lot of time and money into launching it, modifying it, paying developers to do work and even learning smarty and php just to make it work, is easier to say "in for a penny, in for a pound" but that is your choice. All I was saying on the alternatives were that I had been using a diff cart side by side for the past 6 months and have the following experience:

1) no bugs found yet
2) the last release has not needed updating every 2 weeks (not at all in fact)
3) the last update involved simply copying up some php files no amendments/updates to the templates were required
4) uses html templates (everyone can modify them)
5) donБ─≥t need to learn smarty
6) no security issues
7) runs quicker
8) handles large product numbers easily
9) open source


Ps Б─⌠ anyone want to buy some licenses?

Without naming the product, rough guestimate - how much does this thing run?

cmon, thats not a fair question in the XC forums, even without naming them.

Go into Funk's IRC room and talk to him if you need to know.
How would you feel if competition were being discussed on your forums?

Everyone has a point and I am sure for Developers XC isn't ideal if they have to upgrade xxx's of sites everytime a release comes out, in fact it is probably a pain in the arse! Fair Do's, but funkydunk has already said he doesnt want to name them, so there is little point in discussing further.

I doesnt feel ethical or business like to me...

Funkydunk is a reseller of competitor's solution.
Information on how to contact him in order to get more info about this solution is removed (it was posted between kevinrm's post and CC's post).
Funkydunk is banned from the forums. We do not mind people doing business and finding their clients on this forum, but we do mind people doing business here at our expense.

8O

Oh my, thats a bit harsh, he did actually say he didnt want to mention it by name.

Bans are rife round these days, although I dont disagree with all of them.