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cflsystems 07-23-2013 08:56 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
Mobile templates should be served based on scren size not device type. There are tables small enough to not fit desktop version of the site as well as smartphones big enough to fit the desktop version. And from certain screen size down there should always be a switch button so user can have a choice what they want to use

carpeperdiem 07-23-2013 09:03 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cflsystems
Mobile templates should be served based on scren size not device type. There are tables small enough to not fit desktop version of the site as well as smartphones big enough to fit the desktop version. And from certain screen size down there should always be a switch button so user can have a choice what they want to use


OK, I'll bite.

THE PROBLEM I see with serving xMobile to a tablet is that modern desktop templates can look GREAT on an iPad. Even a 7" Kindle Fire. BUT -- a very specific mobile template looks kinda sucky on an iPad. Downright bad.

Asking the customer to choose before they enter your site, to me, is an invitation for disaster.
But then again, the developer of xMobile encrypted the init.php, so I can't edit it. I don't know the logic they are choosing to use.

I'd like to see the settings for init.php set in a config file that the admin can edit.
Maybe that would make a better solution?

cflsystems 07-23-2013 09:09 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
That's why iPad shold serve the desktop version base don its screen size. Even 7" tables can server the desktop version again based on screen size not because they are tables. There are smartphones like 6"+ size (oh yes I have seen ppl walking around with those and they are not tablets... ) so they can also server the desktop version

As for asking user to choice which version to see - no, this is very annoying. What I meant was having a button, link or other way so customer can choice at any time if they want to switch

Stizerg 07-24-2013 05:21 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
I just checked my development site on Samsung Galaxy tab 10'', mobile version loading. I need that fixed file.
Also there's bug with detailed pictures in Chrome and Opera.
I'm going to submit my ticket now.

carpeperdiem 07-24-2013 05:29 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cflsystems
That's why iPad shold serve the desktop version base don its screen size. Even 7" tables can server the desktop version again based on screen size not because they are tables.

I am meeting a friend later today at the Apple Store in NYC -- we will use the Apple Store as our test suite of mobile gadgets. :-)
I'll report back later.
J

cflsystems 07-24-2013 08:10 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
Any chance of getting free iPhone or iPad ;)

carpeperdiem 07-24-2013 08:13 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cflsystems
Any chance of getting free iPhone or iPad ;)


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espresso 07-24-2013 06:54 PM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
I posted my opinion in several posts:

We need to be able to configure ourselves in admin, which devices we want to serve the mobile version to.
This should be based on screen size, os etc.

There must be a link on the mobile version so users can go to the desktop version, without being bombarded by the question.

There must be a link code provided that we can add to the desktop version, allowing users to switch to the mobile version. QTs version solved this by an annoying window along the top asking continuously: " are you sure you want to switch the version"... Well, you can click on don't ask me anymore... But then you can't go back....

carpeperdiem 07-25-2013 05:05 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
OK guys - this may be an iOS "feature" - but it is annoying me...

When customer gets to a <form> on a smartphone - the input fields appear to "center" themselves on the screen, so in the case of my checkout - the form fields blow out the formatting.

Like this:
http://www.carpeperdiem.us/xcartforum/xmbcheckout-1.png
http://www.carpeperdiem.us/xcartforum/xmbcheckout-2.png

I think this is a fundamental flaw in the design of this mobile template (well, all mobile templates that do not make a SPECIFIC formatting for forms).

1. IS THIS a normal behavior of iOS (or other mobile OS) ?
2. Short of reinventing the form css and using something like jquery mobile , is there a temporary workaround to prevent forms from auto-centering when in input mode?

carpeperdiem 07-25-2013 05:44 AM

Re: xMobile - Smartphone mobile template
 
css is your friend.
and <table> is your enemy

especially in mobile

i removed the table formatting for the form and simply used css.

all better now -- except for the x-payments "lite" form -- which now needs to be re-invented as a non-lite template - that will be in its own thread.

I STILL think a mobile-specific form interface will be a welcome improvement.

http://www.carpeperdiem.us/xcartforum/xmbcheckout-3.png


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