Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

Give them chance. It will come in time. The important thing is a solid code base first and thats starting to look good now.

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

Thanks xplorer

To get the most recent beta version please download it from our website: http://next.x-cart.com/ - YES THIS IS WHERE I GOT IT FROM FOR MY SECOND INSTALL BUT STILL SOME OF THE ISSUES WERE THERE

As for the issue: we can't reproduce it on our servers and would appreciate if you report it at http://bt.x-cart.com/ and upload all your log files - I WILL TRY TO DO THAT

Narrows boxes - please could you let us have some screenshots? What browser do you use? - SORRY I DELETED THIS INSTALLATION - WANTED TO DO A WHOLE NEW ONE AGAIN. I MEANT - THE HEIGHT OF THE TEXT BOXES IS NOT ENOUGH TO FIT THE TEXT - IE AND FF

When XCN Admin goes into the storefront he behaves like a regular registered customer. So you don't need two user accounts having the same email to test your shop. This is not a session issue. - I DID NOT KNOW THAT - SO THIS IS A MAJOR CHANGE IN HOW ADMIN/CUSTOMER ACTS

Yes, only products data can be exported/imported. - WE NEED MORE IMPORT/EXPORT AT LEAST WHAT XC HAS NOW (I KNOW IT TAKES TIME)

I believe that replacing "LC_something" in the source code with "XC_something" is not the thing that we should spend our time on right now. YES YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF RIGHT NOW, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THIS OUT; I AM SURE IF YOU DON'T CHANGE IT RIGHT FORM THE BEGINNING IT WILL NOT BE CHANGED LATER AND WILL STAY LIKE THIS

What is the problem with "cart.php" registered as the directory index from .htaccess? NOT SURE IF IT HAS ANY DEEP IMPACT BUT WHY NOT FOLLOW THE DEFAULTS SO THERE IS NO NEED TO SET THIS IN HTACCESS

I know that displaying the country field below the state field is OK in US, but for the rest of the world it looks weird. There is no ability to reorder the fields yet, but I've added it to the list of short-term improvements. MY POINT EXACTLY - THERE SHOULD BE A WAY TO REORDER THESE FIELDS. YOU HAVE HARDCODED IT IN SOME WAY THAT YOU YOURSELF ADMIT IS NOT GOOD FOR USA.

As for order statuses: what should happen when the order status is switched to "cancelled", "backordered" and "refunded"? Should this trigger an e-mail to the customer and affect the inventory stock? SEARCH THE FORUM - FEW POSTS ON THE TOPIC WITH HACKS FOR EVERY SINGLE XC VERSION - EVERYONE NEEDS IT - AND IT IS EXPLAINED IN THESE POSTS WHAT EACH STATUS SHOULD DO. IT MAY BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SCREEN IN ADMIN FOR STATUSES WITH ABILITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL AS NEEDED AND TO SET IF EACH ONE SENDS EMAIL OR NOT, ADJUSTS INVENTORY OR NOT...

We display the sihpping address first because in most cases customers want to see the total order cost (including delivery charges) before choosing the payment method and going further. We believe this won't be a problem for customers at all. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT. MAYBE OTHERS CAN COMMENT ON THIS AS WELL

Importing/updating products: there is no a "data checking" step, if something in the file is wrong, it will go directly into the database. You don't need to specify all fields, having the product name and either ID or SKU will be enought: for the missing fields the import script will use default values for new products and will keep the values from the database for existing ones (the script searches products by the ID first, and, if it can't find the ID, it searches for the SKU then). GOOD THAT THERE IS NO NEED TO SPCIFY ALL FIELDS AND THE DB INFO STAYS IF NOT IMPORTED. NOT GOOD THAT THERE IS NO CHECK IF THE IMPORT FIEL IS GOOD OR NOT - WHAT IF ONE OF THE LINES IS MISSING FIELD - THE WHOLE FILE AFTER THAT LINE IS SCREWED AND ALL INFO WILL GO TO WRONG FIELDS AND/OR PRODUCTS

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

Ok a little more about the beta install

1. PHP notice messages I was getting - this was due to having APC installed. Once I turned it off messages disappear

2. I don't understand this - install.php calls init.php which sets error_reporting values, then init.php calls top.inc.php which again first thing it does is to set error_reporting but with different values. What is the purpose of this having it twice one after the other? Doesn't make sense

3. At least in the installation files you can still see this

@category XC Next

Lite Commerce installation package
@package Lite Commerce

it is confusing, misleading; I have the feeling I am testing LC and not XCN
I know this may not be priority but if not fixed now it will never get fixed. There should be nothing in XCN code to relate even remotely to LC. This is not LC it is XCN. If you want this new platform to be recognized as XCN you should take out everything LC from it. Keep it consistant

4. How to break the installation - when copying config.default.php to config.php edit it and change

table_prefix = "xlite_" TO table_prefix = "xcn_"
namespace=XLite TO namespace=XCN
name = "var/log/xlite.log.php" TO name = "var/log/xcn.log.php"
ident = "XCN"

On the 5th step of the installation - building cache - an error shows up and installation stops

ERROR: "42S02" (code N/A)
SQLSTATE[42S02]: Base table or view not found: 1146 Table 'xcartnext.xlite_modules' doesn't exist

which makes me think "xlite_" is hardcoded somewhere as table prefix
That's a bug

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

I was confused about XCN also because it looks exactly what was have been using for the past year (Litecommerce). I finally quit using Litecommerce because with every upgrade, the site would crash and would need a soft reset (which I dont have time for).

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

I was thinking the same, it (XCN), looks really slow compared with the x-cart 4.5 demo.

What do you think if Apple had said that this week about the iPhone 5?
*ONE CLAP FROM INSIDE THE PRESS ROOM* - A paid Apple employee who holds the *Please Clap now* sign.

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

If a piece of technology is to be considered more advanced than its predecessor, it must be better in every way. Speed, ease of use, sleekness of design, interface, and features.

XCN loses on most of those points when compared to XC (at this point in time). Over time I believe that XCN will catch XC, and pass it up on all fronts except speed.

However, going back to the iPhone analogy, Apple's software is able to take advantage of the latest and greatest hardware advances as well. If you try running Windows 7 on hardware that was designed for Windows 98, you are going to be disappointed. Lets not forget that this is software, and software usually grows larger and more complicated as it advances.

The slowdown caused by OOP is all server-side is it not? So better hardware will compensate for this. Overall, XCN is slightly smaller on the client side, so there is one good point for it. :-)

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

Out of interest could you let me know how this loads up

thesuitstore.co.uk

Its an XCN demo site with Drupal. It's appears rapid here in England but that means nothing

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

What's the first thing you check when upgrading anything? The speed. Is it snappier? Speed is the #1 feature.

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

Blazing fast. Seriously. Of course, I have visited the site a few times so I might have had cached files.

Edit: After clearing my cache and refreshing the page it wasn't that great. Chrome reports 6.79 seconds form here in the US. The page rendered faster than that, but twitter and the like were still loading in the background for that long.

I attached an image of some of the biggest speed/size problems, and I want to point out that the .js and .css files are not being combined like they should be.

Re: X-Cart Next beta testing
 

In Drupal there is a setting to combine .js/.css files together (the Performance page). The 1.1.x stand-alone version (XCN beta) can aggregate them too.