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balinor 11-12-2008 09:29 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
If you read the thread, it mentions search engine friendly urls and meta data, yes. As far as the third party add-ons not being necessary - well - I wouldn't dismiss them just yet, need to see just how well done these SEO mods are.

amxfan 11-12-2008 09:43 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
balinor

Thanks. I did not see where it said that in the thread.

balinor 11-12-2008 09:51 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
http://forum.x-cart.com/showpost.php?p=235746&postcount=21

amxfan 11-12-2008 10:35 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
Thanks. I found it after you pointed out it was there. Must have gotten a little crazy with the scroll when I read though.

hhiker 11-12-2008 11:51 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
Quote:

Management
Orders
Users
Statistics
Edit ratings
Discounts
Coupons
News management
Gift certificates
Membership levels
Wish lists
Import/Export
Files

Catalog
Products
Add new product
Extra fields
Categories
Manufacturers
Update inventory

Settings
General settings
Payment methods
Tax system
Shipping methods
Shipping charges
Shipping markups
Countries
States
Destination zones

Administration
Summary
DB backup/restore
Modules
Static pages
Speed bar
Webmaster mode
Edit templates
HTML catalog
Languages
Images location
Credit card types
Titles
Patch/Upgrade

Uh, one question. Where is Search For Products? I think this layout is far better for the side menu. :)

Light Speed 11-12-2008 01:25 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hhiker
Uh, one question. Where is Search For Products? I think this layout is far better for the side menu. :)


I think if you just click on products you can use the search function there.

xplorer 11-12-2008 11:07 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by balinor
Here's the way I have my menus organized on our stock install which seems to work great for our clients:
...


Thank you! Great idea to separate subgroups with an empty line! Here is the updated version of the menu:
Quote:

----------------------------------------------------------
Management
Orders
Subscriptions
Returns

Statistics
Product ratings
Surveys

Users
Membership levels
Stop list

Discounts
Coupons
Gift certificates
Wish lists

Files
News management

Import/Export

----------------------------------------------------------
Catalog
Categories
Manufacturers

Add new product
Products
Product classes
Extra fields

Update inventory

----------------------------------------------------------
Settings
General settings

Payment methods
Credit card types

Countries
States
Destination zones

Taxes

Shipping options
Shipping methods
Shipping charges
Shipping markups
UPS Online ╝ Tools

----------------------------------------------------------
Administration
Summary

DB backup/restore

Modules
Languages
Titles

Static pages
Speed bar
Webmaster mode
Edit templates
HTML catalog
Images location

Patch/Upgrade



Comments are appreciated :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joakim
Does this mean initial realease of 4.2 or 4.2 at a whole? And if not can you give a plausable reason?



4.2 at a whole. We decided not to include new features into minor releases to make upgrades easier. Just to clarify:
- new X-Cart vX feature major architecture changes;
- new X-Cart vX.Y introduce new features;
- new X-Cart vX.Y.Z include bug-fixes.

However, we are going to release 4.3 in about a quarter after 4.2. Perhaps, this feature will be added to 4.3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by timbrrr
Must not have enabled this for everyone - I've not been able to find it either, no matter which way the filters are applied. Maybe its for the better... I wont be distracted playing whilst I should be working ...



4.2 beta is available for all X-Cart users provided they follow the steps I mentioned in the first message in this thread. Please let us know if you still experience the problem; perhaps, there is a bug in our HelpDesk system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light Speed
Still no shipping menu but that's not the end of the world. :)


Please see an updated version above. There is still no Shipping menu, but the links are visually separated from other ones. Approved? :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light Speed
I think if you just click on products you can use the search function there.



Yes, just as other similar links ("Categories", "Users", ...).

Joakim 11-13-2008 07:56 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xplorer
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joakim
Does this mean initial realease of 4.2 or 4.2 at a whole? And if not can you give a plausable reason?

4.2 at a whole. We decided not to include new features into minor releases to make upgrades easier. Just to clarify:
- new X-Cart vX feature major architecture changes;
- new X-Cart vX.Y introduce new features;
- new X-Cart vX.Y.Z include bug-fixes.

However, we are going to release 4.3 in about a quarter after 4.2. Perhaps, this feature will be added to 4.3.

Please change that perhaps to a "for sure" ;-) You see there is a major problem here. Lets say I want to give a discount, or show only, product A to customers w/ membership A, now I want to do the same with product B and members of B ok so far, but now I have a product C which is a bit special and I want to offer it to a special group of customers, ok I connect it to membership C, but now if I want to show this for just som of customers B I have to remove them from their originally group taking away that discount or show etc.

This is why I think you made big mistake when adding multi memberships to category, products, discounts ect. you should have done it for customers from start instead as now you have much more complicated system to handle. Instead asign product, category to just 1 membership and then include customers it fits into that group, you now have to multiply memberships at several places - and still system is very limiting!

I think you need to rethink as now you think wrong, I think. Like why have multiple memberships on categories as you already can create multiple categories and put multiple products in it. Why have multiple membership on products when you already can put product in multiple categories etc. etc.

Sorry for rant, but I think this is MAJOR problem and limitation with xcart, and I don't think its an addition of feature but an approvement of already available feature. I looked at code and it's not overwhealmingly difficult to implement. Basically you need 1 new table 'xcart_customer_memberships' w/ 'login' and 'membershipid' and as these fields already exists in 'xcart_customers' and can only be 1 value now, upgrade that part is really easy. Most of it would be in php files most users don't touch anyway and template files I think they who change in general are used to make design changes on updates. With a desent diff tool that even is available for free, this is no big problem.

So please rething, xart woul be sooo muuch moore powerful!

kalonji 11-13-2008 09:48 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
The only thing I am really concerned about is having the 1 page checkout mod from altered cart work on 4.2. I am also wondering if there have been any upgrades to the backup.
I really like the url history feature..that is going to go well.
I'm going to be very daring...and am planning to lanch a new store using 4.2 pro as soon as its out of beta. (provided the 1 page checkout mod works)

xplorer 11-13-2008 09:57 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.2 beta testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fordy3
Not a bug, but it needs changing so UK customers don't have to b***er about on every install! If I were new to Xcart I would just delete the install and go look elsewhere...

This is a list of UK Counties....
http://www.gbet.com/AtoZ_counties/

What is currently set in Xcart is a total mess of Towns, Cities & Counties.


The list of counties we use in X-Cart is taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_6879

It is an ISO standard.

I would appreciate if you clarify what is wrong with that list. Thank you!


Quote:

Originally Posted by kalonji
The only thing I am really concerned about is having the 1 page checkout mod from altered cart work on 4.2. I am also wondering if there have been any upgrades to the backup.



The mod affects templates which are completely rewritten in 4.2 Therefore I guess the mod won't work until the author updates it.

As for the backup function: as far as I know it hasn't been modified.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joakim
Please change that perhaps to a "for sure" ;-) You see there is a major problem here. Lets say I want to give a discount, or show only, product A to customers w/ membership A, now I want to do the same with product B and members of B ok so far, but now I have a product C which is a bit special and I want to offer it to a special group of customers, ok I connect it to membership C, but now if I want to show this for just som of customers B I have to remove them from their originally group taking away that discount or show etc.



We will surely consider the feature when planning 4.3. However, right now I can't assure you that the feature will be implemented in 4.3 because it depends on many factors.


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