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ADDISON 08-01-2013 12:30 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
By the way feature is not only a request like ability to save the cart content or send it to an email address. A feature could mean an improvement to the code, functionality, program logic.

xtech 08-01-2013 01:39 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADDISON
You should wait for October when v4.6.1 will become available. Definitely version 4.6 is a step forward in speed. I had the chance to test 4.5.4 and 4.6.0 and I can say there is a solid improvement in this direction.

Also, looking over Bugtracker the number of issues are decreasing. Qualiteam engineers are doing a great job I never seen before. It could be much better than that. More bugs will be solved with 4.6.1.



When officially the x-cart 4.6.1 version release to solve all the bugs in current 4.6.0? What is qualiteam response?

ADDISON 08-01-2013 01:44 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
http://help.x-cart.com/index.php?title=Roadmap

ADDISON 08-01-2013 01:46 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
@xtech: there are two types of bugs: those we know and unknown. 4.6.1 will solve only the bugs we know already. We cannot speak about "all bugs". It is physically impossible.

xtech 08-01-2013 01:48 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
what u think can i migrate my existing Pro version to latest 4.6.0 platinum now?Is platinum 4.6.0 total bug free?

ADDISON 08-01-2013 01:52 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
I am not qualified to tell you what to do because my point of view must be solid based on facts/proves which I don't have.

4.6.0 is not TOTAL bug free. Qualiteam cannot prove this. Just think about Microsoft, Corel, Adobe don't say these words. Imagine for such of statement you can destroy a business.

xtech 08-01-2013 01:53 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
hello,
Which is known bugs that u know?

carpeperdiem 08-01-2013 04:26 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by costanza
I feel I need to upgrade my sites.

Since you called me out...
A few thoughts...
There is nothing ".0" about 4.6.0 - 4.6.0 was originally going to be named 4.5.6, but just like Chrome is at version 28, X-Cart jumped a branch, for almost NO additional features.

4.6.0 is "stable" enough --
The challenges are:
1. the upgrade.
2. 3rd party mods

If your mods are 4.6.0 compatible, then look at the upgrade --
I tried to upgrade from 4.5.4 to 4.5.5 and failed miserably. Documented here. So I bailed.
The so-called security enhancements to 4.5.5 are part of 4.6.0, so in theory, my upgrade will fail.
I spent considerable time and money fixing 4.5.4 and using 3rd party solutions (such as Altered Cart X-Payments Connector for Checkout One) -- so I am terrified of 4.6.x from an upgrade perspective.

I also JUST finished building a new template and mobile template for 4.5.4, so I am in no mood to revisit the shopping list of fixes and patches for 4.6

But -- if you are starting from scratch, 4.6 yes. If you can wait for 4.6.1, it may solve some minor issues identified in 4.6.0 -- but it may introduce others.

I will evaluate 4.6.1 when it drops and then decide... but I have a very well performing 4.5.4 store that has been patched - and I am on a rocketship of a VPS with SSDs, and way more ram than I need. And I am using a CDN for static content. So my site is "fast enough" -- and 4.6 will probably give me a minor speed boost - but I don't think dramatic -- since Im already at 94 in google page speed and "A" in yslow. So I don't feel the urgent need. But I achieved this by spending time and money. 4.6.x branch may solve many of the issues I spent time and money solving?

I'm afraid of the upgrade, so I am sitting tight for now.

I know this is not the answer you were seeking, but there are way too many variables -- and every situation is unique. I know that sounds like boilerplate. But it's not -- you're the only one who can decide if the journey is worth the investment.

I WOULD NOT upgrade to 4.5.5 -- if you're going to do it, go for 4.6.0, or hold off for 4.6.1

Hope this helps you.

J

cflsystems 08-01-2013 08:27 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADDISON

I do not contest presence of new features. I like them because the visitors ask for them. A solid company with good programming engineers could deal with both bugs and features. It is not normal to call stop adding features but solve the bugs.


Not really. 4.6.0 to 4.6.1 should be bugs fixing not new features release. And by new features I mean new modules that are being added to default cart. New features is not improvements to existing ones already in cart. But when you have minor version released that adds completely new feature this is not how it should be. I need to use the upgrade to fix bugs not to add new modules. 4.7.x will have to deal with adding new features, major improvement or changes of how XC works. 5.0.x will be the one to offer completely new interface, core changes, etc. but we will not see 5.0.x ever will we?
I stand behind the concept minor version releases to be bug fixes only and minor improvements if this is needed for existing modules and features already added. NO NEW ONES

cherie 08-01-2013 12:04 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by costanza
I feel I need to upgrade my sites. I'm still on 4.4.3, with the "Smart Template" from X-cart mods UK.

I am fine with the functionality of my sites, but I think the cleaner code of 4.6 & the "Reboot template", will be much better for SEO.

Reading through this complete thread on 4.6, am I crazy to go to 4.6 so soon? Or is 4.5.5 a better option? I would appreciate advice from anyone, but would especially be interested in what cflsystems, ADDISON, carpeperdiem & cherie think.
...
And yes, the upgrade process for XC is daunting!

Since you are wanting the benefits of 4.6 then there's not much point going from 4.4 to 4.5. If I had known 4.6.1 would not be coming on the heels of 4.6.0 and if I had known they would make 4.5-to-4.6 upgrades (never seen before) then I would have built new sites on 4.5.5 then waited for 4.6.1. That being said, if you want to move to 4.5 just upgrade to 4.5.4 (not 4.5.5). If you want to do something for yourself now while you wait, upgrade to 4.4.5 and apply all security patches.

If I were in your position I would upgrade to 4.4.5 and apply all patches while I waited for 4.6.1 and any skins/mods to be compatible.

cflsystems 08-02-2013 03:16 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Why is Anti_Fraud module showing in admin order details even if it is off? This has been done on purpose as it wasn't like this before 4.6.0.

It shows like this

Quote:

Antifraud Check Disabled Enable


QT please correct this - if anyone is interested of the module they will look for it and turn it on from admin modules, there is no need to show it like this.

It shows on order details page and also on invoice page from admin. 2 files to modify

common_-files/mail/html/order_data.tpl
common_files/main/history_order.tpl

find
Code:

{if $usertype eq "A" or $usertype eq "P"}
<br /><br /><br />
{include file="modules/Anti_Fraud/extra_data.tpl" data=$order.extra.Anti_Fraud}
{/if}


and change to

Code:

{if $active_modules.Anti_Fraud and ($usertype eq "A" or $usertype eq "P")}
<br /><br /><br />
{include file="modules/Anti_Fraud/extra_data.tpl" data=$order.extra.Anti_Fraud}
{/if}


philrisk 08-02-2013 03:24 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADDISON
I am not qualified to tell you what to do because my point of view must be solid based on facts/proves which I don't have.

4.6.0 is not TOTAL bug free. Qualiteam cannot prove this. Just think about Microsoft, Corel, Adobe don't say these words. Imagine for such of statement you can destroy a business.


Corel!!!! Have we jumped back to the 90's here :D/

carpeperdiem 08-02-2013 03:54 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ADDISON
there are two types of bugs:


In X-Cart land, there is also a 3rd kind of bug:

"product defect based on poor design choices" - but since the engineers coded X-Cart to work "perfectly" as designed, X-Cart will tell you, "it is not a bug". Examples:

- Address book
- Gift certificates
- Janrain
etc...

It's great to see the add-to-cart "upsell" design defect being addressed. Thank you!

cflsystems 08-04-2013 01:22 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Remember few versions ago XC had it so if there is only one language setup for a store in admin the link to admin/languages auto loads that language without having to specifically select it from the dropdown? This was active for like 1-2 releases and then magically disappear.
I would call this a bug. The code is still in the script but not being executed - there was another line of code added that prevents it from running.

In admin/languages.php
Code:

if (
    $REQUEST_METHOD == 'GET'
    && empty($mode)
    && !isset($language)
    && count($languages) == 1
) {
    // If only one language available in the store
    // then automatically select it
    func_header_location('languages.php?language=' . $current_language);
}


this is supposed to just load the language if only one is in the store. So soon after this code was added this was added before it

Code:

settype($language, 'string');

Since one of the code conditions is for $language not to be set but this one line code sets it (to either true or false) the code will not run. To fix move that line below the first block of code.

carpeperdiem 08-04-2013 01:45 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cflsystems
Since one of the code conditions is for $language not to be set but this one line code sets it (to either true or false) the code will not run.


LO freaking L!

I routinely edit the menu item in file:

/skin/common_files/single/menu_box.tpl

FIND:
Code:

<div>
<a href="{$catalogs.admin}/languages.php">{$lng.lbl_languages}</a>


REPLACE WITH:
Code:

<div>
<a href="{$catalogs.admin}/languages.php?language=en">{$lng.lbl_languages}</a>


(that would be for english as default language)

But kinda silly since most stores admin will typically be in one language. Most... so logic says if only one language, why make users jump through any hoops? Too logical.

Thanks for finding this!
J

cherie 08-04-2013 02:11 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
I thought they reverted to the old way since people couldn't readily find how to adjust the encoding and other general Language settings. I like the method of adding the English link to the admin menu.

cflsystems 08-04-2013 05:32 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Everything that is on the default page show at the end of the language page when selected so there is nothing lost or inaccessible.

Jon 08-04-2013 06:55 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpeperdiem
LO freaking L!

I routinely edit the menu item in file:

/skin/common_files/single/menu_box.tpl

FIND:
Code:

<div>
<a href="{$catalogs.admin}/languages.php">{$lng.lbl_languages}</a>


REPLACE WITH:
Code:

<div>
<a href="{$catalogs.admin}/languages.php?language=en">{$lng.lbl_languages}</a>


(that would be for english as default language)

But kinda silly since most stores admin will typically be in one language. Most... so logic says if only one language, why make users jump through any hoops? Too logical.

Thanks for finding this!
J


Funny to see people using the same short cuts; I do the same thing :)

cflsystems 08-04-2013 08:34 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Another bug which I suspect is present in all XC versions. Reproduced on the demo site as well

Load any page and click on login. On the login screen (or popup) click "forgot password". On that page don't do anything but click on the login link again. If popup just enter details and login. Now it is expected after login to be redirected to cart or home page or account page but no - cart stays on that same "forgot password" page which makes no sense at all.

Now if site uses https login page loads as https and forgot password as http so there will be redirect after login. But the "forgot password" page is still accessible even if logged in - http://demo.x-cart.com/demo/help.php?section=Password_Recovery - try it

What would the expected behaviour would be - if customer is logged in "forgot password" page should not be accessible. This s completely unnecessary and in case the login is in a popup can completely confuse customers why they are still on "forgot password" page

And while on the subject - why is the url still called "password recovery"? Password is not being recovered as it is not send to customers anymore instead reset password link is being send. And the page by default has the text
Quote:

You can recover your lost account information using the form below. Please enter your valid email address (the one you used for registration), your account information will be mailed to you shortly.
Which is completely not what happens...

xtech 08-05-2013 01:34 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Hello,
What is the process of updating from 44.x Pro to 4.6.0 platinum? what is the updated patch for Pro to Platinum? Platinum file can be available only when platinum license purchased otherwise not?

xtech 08-07-2013 03:05 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Hello,
I am facing a problem in admin for running sql patch and taking sql backup in 4.6.0 migrated platinum version.

Access denied !
Access to the resource you are requesting is allowed only for registered IP addresses. The IP address you are currently using is not registered with the system. A request for registering your IP address has been sent to your email. More info

Error ID: 82

Any settings need to change in admin? Or need to change config.php file?

Please let me know as I cannot able to install reboot without solving this.

Thanks.

Vacman 08-09-2013 04:20 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
The assumption I am going to make is that you logged in on one computer, then tried to do log in from a second machine afterwards?

You usually just need to log in from the initial computer. The only exception would be if you have added an IP to the config section for allowed IP addresses.

Duramax 6.6L 08-10-2013 07:13 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xtech
Hello,
I am facing a problem in admin for running sql patch and taking sql backup in 4.6.0 migrated platinum version.

Access denied !
Access to the resource you are requesting is allowed only for registered IP addresses. The IP address you are currently using is not registered with the system. A request for registering your IP address has been sent to your email. More info

Error ID: 82

Any settings need to change in admin? Or need to change config.php file?

Please let me know as I cannot able to install reboot without solving this.

Thanks.


Respond to the email that the system sent you, then you should be able to log in and complete what you are trying to do. I believe it registers your ip address with the system.

7thdesire 08-14-2013 04:51 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
can anyone please tell me how stable 4.6 is please as i need to build a new site and want the best version that's stable

also its been awhile since 4.6 came out surly 4.6.1 is due

thanks

cflsystems 08-14-2013 08:40 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
It's ok to start a new store with 4.6.0. By the time you get it ready to go live 4.6.1 will be out.

7thdesire 08-14-2013 08:44 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
but thats the issue my sites are major redesigns over the xcart template i change so much it takes so long to update pulls all the mods make it harder to update

cflsystems 08-14-2013 08:50 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
4.6.0 to 4.6.1 should be just bug fixing update so everything you do now on 4.6.0 will stay with the 4.6.1 upgrade

carpeperdiem 08-14-2013 05:44 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cflsystems
4.6.0 to 4.6.1 should be just bug fixing update so everything you do now on 4.6.0 will stay with the 4.6.1 upgrade


And the winner of tonight's "best comedian" award goes to...

Dougrun 08-16-2013 10:10 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
no warning about First Data Global Gateway changes?? 4.5.4 uses 1.0 while 4.6 uses 2.0, totally incompatible. Now my store cc processing is down while i fix it.

random 08-16-2013 10:42 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougrun
no warning about First Data Global Gateway changes?? 4.5.4 uses 1.0 while 4.6 uses 2.0, totally incompatible. Now my store cc processing is down while i fix it.


Sorry, the update was mentioned in the 4.6 roadmad, but yes, you're right we should have also warn about this more clearly.

You can switch your account from 1.0 to 2.0 by contacting First Data support and they'll do this quickly.

aim 08-19-2013 12:00 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seyfin
https://bugtracker.qtmsoft.com/view.php?id=42901
X-AOM : Product options is not prefilled


Fixed
http://bugtracker.qtmsoft.com/file_download.php?file_id=11418&type=bug

OpheliaPayne 01-17-2014 11:59 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksenia
4) the most accurate solution ( if you want to speed up the product appearing but not affect the speed in general) is to clear not all the caches, but search cache only:

Code:

rm -r var/cache/search_cache/


Also, X-Cart architects will keep working on making X-Cart caching 'smarter'.


How is this accomplished? And how can a provider accomplish it without having to bother admin each time?

Ksenia 01-19-2014 11:21 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OpheliaPayne
How is this accomplished? And how can a provider accomplish it without having to bother admin each time?


Hi!

I'm afraid all the options available out of the box were listed in post #48.

There are also 2 options which require some custom programming:

1)If you like we could give out a patch which clears all cache ( of all providers)each time after a new product is added by any of them. It will be developed for a default store of version 4.6.1 ( as I understand from support ticket, you use this very version) and give out as is, without warranty. If you need this patch, please confirm.

2) It's also possible to develop a custom modification which would allow the providers to clear cache of their own products only. To request a quote for such a modification, please contact us in your HelpDesk account.

OpheliaPayne 01-20-2014 06:55 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksenia
Hi!

I'm afraid all the options available out of the box were listed in post #48.


What I quoted was in post #48

Originally Posted by Ksenia
4) the most accurate solution ( if you want to speed up the product appearing but not affect the speed in general) is to clear not all the caches, but search cache only:

Code:
rm -r var/cache/search_cache/

Also, X-Cart architects will keep working on making X-Cart caching 'smarter'.

How is this accomplished? And how can a provider accomplish it without having to bother admin each time?

Is your reply responding to how what was posted in #48 can be accomplished?

Ksenia 01-20-2014 09:00 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OpheliaPayne
Is your reply responding to how what was posted in #48 can be accomplished?


My reply described the solution we can suggest, given you have a multivendor store, and want to speed up publishing the products. but do not want to bother admin each time.

If your question is how to run a command which you quoted - FTP access to the server is required. I believe the admin will not be eager to give such access to all his providers, as it opens access, say, to config.php which contains the access to DB credentials and thus -all orders, customers and other info not directly related to this or that particular provider.

If i still misunderstood you, please accept my apologies and try to rephrase your question.

OpheliaPayne 01-20-2014 02:04 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Thank you. That clarifies things better.

1)If you like we could give out a patch which clears all cache ( of all providers)each time after a new product is added by any of them. It will be developed for a default store of version 4.6.1 ( as I understand from support ticket, you use this very version) and give out as is, without warranty. If you need this patch, please confirm.

We will need this please.

Ksenia 01-21-2014 04:12 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by OpheliaPayne

1)If you like we could give out a patch which clears all cache (of all providers) each time after a new product is added by any of them. It will be developed for a default store of version 4.6.1 ( as I understand from support ticket, you use this very version) and give out as is, without warranty. If you need this patch, please confirm.

We will need this please.


Hi again. Please see attached.

xtech 01-21-2014 05:01 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Hello,
I am facing a issue in 4.6.1 Platinum when I change anything in the site tpl or php file that code not updated in the store.

Each time I have to cleared x-cart template and cache.

What is the issue here?

Thanks.

xplorer 01-21-2014 09:56 PM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xtech
I am facing a issue in 4.6.1 Platinum when I change anything in the site tpl or php file that code not updated in the store. Each time I have to cleared x-cart template and cache.


Please make sure that "Do not check if templates are changed" setting is disabled (Back-end -> Settings -> General settings page).

xtech 01-24-2014 02:10 AM

Re: X-Cart 4.6 released
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xplorer
Please make sure that "Do not check if templates are changed" setting is disabled (Back-end -> Settings -> General settings page).


Which one is better checked or or unchecked?For site security and for better performance is it required to clear each time?

Also In new version Remember password for browser(Mozila and chrome)is not working.Is it for security purpose?


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