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fearnothing

01-01-2008 01:19 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

I just want to throw my 10 cents worth in on this mod as well - excellent product all round, and all of a sudden my customers are finding 'something' on almost every search - a giant leap forward IMHO and great after-sales support from Bill too. Couldn't be happier.

One interesting side effect that no-one has picked up on is that the search has changed from 'POST' to 'GET' and consequently URLs are extremely SEO friendly!

For example

Quote:

yoursite.com/xcart/_search.php?page=1&q=some+product

This will produce a keyword rich, and regularly updated page. I know there is still some debate about SEO and the '?' but there are a lot of results on Google that have this sort of format.

crazyoval

01-10-2008 09:51 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

I dont understand this, please can you explain? surely if this is a dynamically created page it wont be seen by Google, you have to be there to trigger the search... Google's robot doesn't use your search function to search your site..

Happy to be proven wrong.

fearnothing

01-10-2008 02:26 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

crazyoval - Google definitely recognises search result pages as valid pages these days ... you'll often find these on ciao.com and shopping.com results in Google - click on them and you'll find that you are taken to a search results page (often with no valid results -ha!).

The SEO gurus are still debating which urls that include a '?' get spidered correctly, so I'm not saying any of this is guaranteed.

However, the following is an example URL from our website using Smart Search on the term 'bluegrass' :

http://www.smartchoicemusic.com/store/_search.php?page=1&q=bluegrass

If you follow that link you'll see a very keyword-rich results page. If this link had been placed on an open bluegrass forum or similar relevant website, then you can guarantee that the search engines would have ranked that dynamic page pretty well.

If you compare the keyword denisty on that page to the following one, which is the 'Bluegrass' category page in our store then I think you'll see the difference:

http://www.smartchoicemusic.com/store/Bluegrass-c-45.html

Dunno - all I'm saying is that at least using Smart Search this facility is a bit of a side attraction that may or may not work in SEO terms. It has more potential that the out-of-the-box search page to draw in spiders and customers, and if nothing else could be a useful landing page for Google Ads ??

sbkp	03-26-2008 12:47 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

I have a weird situation getting Smart Search working. I have it working on one site, and now on a new version of that domain, and on another domain (both of which are licensed), I get this problem where the first time I try a search, it works. But then Smart Search gets disabled and further searches use the standard X-Cart search system.

Little help? :)

wjbrewer

03-26-2008 04:19 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbkp

Sounds like the license key is either incorrect, or it isn't in the /admin directory. If you can send your order number, and the exact domain over to support@alteredcart.com I will make sure everything is correct.

jagorny

03-31-2008 10:11 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Hi... I was wondering if any progress has been made on the mod to allow selection of custom fields in the search? I'd like to be able to allow customers to get results on author and ISBN but don't want the redundancy of having custom fields and including the information in the main description fields...

maildodge

04-08-2008 12:20 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Hi, im also wondering if there is any update as to when the version will be available so static pages are also searched!? Thanks.

ReadytoCover

04-29-2008 12:05 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Does anyone know what files I need to edit in order to remove the url links from showing up in search results with this mod?

On the same token, do you know what I need to edit to remove the annoying redbox window at the top of the search results page that says:

There were no full word results, these results were generated using partial word matches.

I e-mailed alteredcart directly from their site but haven't received any responses. Thanks!

longhorn180

04-29-2008 02:37 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReadytoCover

go to skin1/modules/Smart_Search/smart_search_products.tpl and find this code below

Code:

{*** alteredCart.com Smart Search // Product URL & Date ***}

<a href="product.php?productid={$products[product].productid}">╩ {$http_location}/product.php?productid={$products[product].productid}</a>

{if $sort eq 6}

{$lng.lbl_date}: {$products[product].add_date|date_format:$config.Appearance.date_format}

{/if}

{*** Smart Search // Product URL & Date ***}

and comment out this line

Code:

<a href="product.php?productid={$products[product].productid}">╩ {$http_location}/product.php?productid={$products[product].productid}</a>

ReadytoCover

04-30-2008 06:17 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Thanks!

I also found how to remove the annoying redbox window at the top of the search results page that says:

There were no full word results, these results were generated using partial word matches.

In /skin1/modules/Smart_Search/smart_search.tpl

Go to around line 88 and comment out the following:

Code:

{if $partial_matches}

<p style="border: 1px solid #FF0000; padding:10px;" align="center">

{$lng.lbl_no_full_word_results}

</p>

{/if}

DogByteMan

05-07-2008 05:00 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

BCSE has Search URL whereby if you remove a page you can add a search URL in the .htaccess page that will search for a similar item. It's too cool.... but it only works with X-Cart search.php.

Bill, Is there anyway I can make this work with Smart Search? That would be ultimately cool

wjbrewer

05-07-2008 08:03 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogByteMan

I'm not familiar with the BCSE code, but you can probably change it to the _search.php file. You can add a query to the URL _search.php?q=query+string.

paryaei

06-05-2008 04:19 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

the best way to have a geart life.......

Cefko

06-10-2008 02:18 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

I have a question about search relevance:

I am searching for:
http://www.nakupovanje.net/_search.php?page=1&q=garmin+zumo+400
The right product shows only at 4. result.

The same goes for http://www.nakupovanje.net/_search.php?page=1&q=canon+ixus+80
The search first shows model ixus 70 and only then ixus 80.

How can I fix that? In this case, the original search was better.
http://www.nakupovanje.net/search.php

mistaegoista

07-15-2008 03:01 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Any progress on the Extra Field search? If your mod had this, we would certainly be very interested in purchasing it.

crazyoval

07-16-2008 12:03 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

And me Bill, I have two sites chomping at the bit for extra field searches.

One of the sites will have the advance search as part of the home page it is so important.

Thanks

DogByteMan

07-23-2008 10:47 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Crap.... Rebuild English Search Database will no longer run. I have >10,000 products. How do I put this on cron?

wjbrewer

07-23-2008 10:51 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistaegoista

Any progress on the Extra Field search? If your mod had this, we would certainly be very interested in purchasing it.

Hope to have this up later this week.

wjbrewer

07-23-2008 10:53 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogByteMan

Crap.... Rebuild English Search Database will no longer run. I have >10,000 products. How do I put this on cron?

There should be a file called smart_search_cron.php in the admin directory. If you open this file it will have step by step instructions on how to set this up.

DogByteMan

07-23-2008 11:07 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

This is all I have on the subject... Has there been an update?

<?php
/*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
| Smart Search :: alteredCart.com
| All code developed by Bill Brewer
| Copyright ╘2007 alteredCart
| Bill Brewer <bill@alteredcart.com>
| All rights reserved.
| This code is licensed for use on a single server.
| This code is licensed for use by the original purchaser only.
| Full license :: www.alteredcart.com/license.php
|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*/

set_time_limit(0);

/*

*** This script can be run from the command line, or as a cron script ***

Replace the line below with the full path to the xcart dir admin.php file.

Example:
require "/var/www/html/store/admin/auth.php";

*/

admin.php auth.php... which one

wjbrewer

07-23-2008 11:09 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Typo, that should be auth.php

crazyoval

07-23-2008 02:13 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Thank you Bill, I look forward to it.

My site is getting to the point where it is functionally key for this to be the main way customers will find appropriate products. each of my categories have pages and pages of products and this has got to be the worst way to present a choice to a customer. If a customer can come in a really define by using keywords and narrow their choice down from say, 50 options to 10, then I would expect there is far more chance for a person to purchase a product.

I want to consider this as part of the top page of both my sites in future.

Thanks

mistaegoista

08-05-2008 03:16 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjbrewer

Hope to have this up later this week.

Sorry to be nagging, but has there been any progress with the Extra Field search?

crazyoval

08-14-2008 10:46 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

..and me... I have a non-live site that you can test it on with a bunch of mods on it if you are interested Bill.

starwest

08-29-2008 02:41 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjbrewer

Hello.

This sounds like a problem with the 4 letter MySQL word limit, which would cause the incorrect results for 'tea', and 'Pau'. You can edit this by changing (or adding) this to the etc/my.cnf file:

Code:

ft_min_word_len=2

Code:

ft_min_word_len=3

--

Also, the Smart Search uses a natural language search. What this does is assign every word a value, and score this in relation to other words. Basically, rare words are scored higher than common words and product results are based on:

1. Word frequency.
2. Word placement (a word in the title is worth more than a word in the description).

So if you search for 'Chai Tea', the first results with be:

1. Products with both words in the title
2. Products with a single word in the title and both words in the description.
3. Products with both words in the description.
4. Products with a single word in the description.

And all based on word value and density. So if the word tea is used 10 times in a description this will rank above one that uses the work 8 times.

I hope all of this makes sense.

Hi Bill,

That all made sense, but unfortunately I had to wait until now to make the change you suggested (my host would not make it in the shared environment, but now that isn't an issue). I do have a follow up question re:relevancy though.

On a multiple term search, does Smart Search score products which contain the words as a phrase higher than those that do not? In other words, would a search for the terms 'green tea' score a product named 'gunpowder green tea' higher than 'green chai tea' if all other factors were equal?

crazyoval

09-05-2008 06:39 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Hi Bill, any news on the update to include custom field searches?

Thanks

starwest

09-16-2008 02:27 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyoval

Hi Bill, any news on the update to include custom field searches?

Thanks

The update/add-on seems to be available for $29.99

maildodge

09-16-2008 10:28 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

I was waiting for the update too - not gonna pay to get it as was told originally an update for the features i wanted would be available soon.

crazyoval

09-17-2008 05:39 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Thank you starwest :-)

any idea what "Extra Fields - Static Pages & News Add-on" actually means? nowt in the manual or web page.

starwest

09-17-2008 08:53 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyoval

Thank you starwest :-)

any idea what "Extra Fields - Static Pages & News Add-on" actually means? nowt in the manual or web page.

I've got it on order and I'll let you know when I receive it. We need extra field searching, which I assume this includes given the title and the fact that Bill had a beta version available a year ago that searched through the extra fields. It should also include the option of searching through all of your static pages and news pages (which you can see in effect on websitecm.com - they've had a beta version for quite some time). If Bill does not post additional information before I receive and test out the add-on I will be happy to post some screen shots and a brief description.

crazyoval

09-19-2008 01:04 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

HI Starwest. Bill confirmed the above to me. Yes it is simply the ability to search news, static pages and extra fields. For me its the extra fields I have been waiting for. this way I can help customers get more accurate searches if the extra fields provide more detailed ways to describe a product.

Thanks once again.

maildodge

10-28-2008 11:03 PM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Why on my site when searching for "Shirts" it only comes up with 1 t-shirt - it should be showing all the shirts available!?

http://www.stand-out.net

starwest

10-29-2008 07:41 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maildodge

Why on my site when searching for "Shirts" it only comes up with 1 t-shirt - it should be showing all the shirts available!?

http://www.stand-out.net

That's because it's the only product with the term "shirts" in the description. If you want it to search for plural and singular on all terms (ie: shirt when the user searches 'shirts') then you need to enable the following setting:

"Include singular and plural forms of each word in the search query."

Hope that helps!

maildodge

10-29-2008 07:54 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Thanks for replying, I do have that ticked already.

It also only returns the 1 product if searching for "shirt"!?

starwest

10-29-2008 08:10 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maildodge

Thanks for replying, I do have that ticked already.

It also only returns the 1 product if searching for "shirt"!?

Ouch - didn't notice that. If you haven't already tried to re-build the search database, I'd give that a shot. If you have, the only other thing I can think of is that maybe 'shirt' has been detected as a noise-word on your website because it's present in so many product descriptions/titles.

From the manual:

Quote:

Every word that matches your search query in your product titles, descriptions, and keywords (only in X-Cart 4.1.x) is
weighted according to its significance. Consequently, a search word that is present in many product descriptions or titles has
a lower weight (and may even have a zero weight).

AND

Quote:

To enhance the standard search results, any word found in your product descriptions or titles 50% of the time falls into the
50% threshold. These words are then treated as noise-words and excluded from the search query. This threshold greatly
improves the relevancy of the search.

I'm guessing that's where the term is getting tripped up. I'm not sure if there is any way to disable that function, but you could check the 'modules/Smart_Search/smart_search_config.php' files to see if 'shirt' is listed in the 'Special Stop Word List'. I'm not sure if it discounts the word when building the database or adds it there, so give it a look. Other than that, you'll probably need to contact Bill directly to see how you can avoid 'shirt' being discounted to zero relevancy in searches.

noms	11-05-2008 06:24 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Hi Bill,
Congratulations for the mod. I've been playing with the demo and it seems a huge improvement!! (specially compared to the basic x-cart search engine that we have so far)

Just one question: Is the mod able to sphider the content of static pages?
It would be great to get results not only from the catalog, but also from pages...

Thanks

starwest

11-05-2008 08:42 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by noms

Yes - there is an add-on on his site for Smart Search that will allow it to search static pages as well. I've got the add-on for my site and it seems to work well (although I don't currently have it enabled).

noms	11-05-2008 09:29 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Yes, it's true, I've just seen it now as an option. Thanks!
A pitty that the add-on doesn't seem to be installed on the demo site.. not even explained on the manual. I'll try it ...

starwest

11-05-2008 09:38 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Quote:

Originally Posted by noms

Yes, it's true, I've just seen it now as an option. Thanks!
A pitty that the add-on doesn't seem to be installed on the demo site.. not even explained on the manual. I'll try it ...

True. I think it is installed and running on WebsiteCM.com though - at least it was at one point. You can give that a shot if you want to try it out first.

Manic

11-06-2008 10:12 AM

Re: Smart Search from alteredCart :: Spell Checking, Did You Mean? and More.

Great Mod!
Anyone know where to comment out the phrase "This search took xxxx seconds"?

Thanks

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